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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    I've been paying attention. We left the country with a running government holding independent elections. We left the country with a government in place that felt they had everything under control. That was a win. What happens now has nothing to do with whether or not we won the war in Iraq. By every measure we did.

    But if you have a bitch to make about it, take it up with Obama. Just one more thing to kick his ass over.
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Why? Why is it a racist slur? It certainly isn't a racist slur when I say Washington Redskins. It certainly isn't a racist slur when I quote a movie line that 'the redskins are coming'. It is a reference to a people sometimes represented historically as savages--which was accurate in many cases--or the 'noble redskin' which was accurate in many cases. "Redskin or red man" is certainly more descriptive of the people than is 'Indian' or 'Native American' just as 'white man' or 'white' or 'black man' or 'black' is more descriptive of a people than is "European" or "African American" which so few of us are that it is statistically insignificant.

    Why not promote the positive image within the word instead of demanding that it be seen as racially disparaging or any other connotation. Should people be embarrassed or feel denigrated because their skin is of a particular predominant hue more than any other people?
    What is your issue with Native Americans? Savages????? That's an accurate term???? Do you not realize how incredibly racist it is to classify an entire race of people as savages because they didn't live in stone houses and own guns? Sheesh..I suppose you think that they should be grateful to be genocided by a much nobler race.

    And then you conflate Redman with Redskin. Seriously? If you can't understand why someone else would find the term offensive, then you pretty much lack any human empathy.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Are we talking about the term "Redskin" here...or not?

    The term STILL HAS negative, racist components to it, WHICH YOU ADMITTED TO.....and yet you cannot bring yourself to admit it should not be used by a NFL team (I suppose if a NFL team was named "The Washington Niggers" you would not have an issue with that....even while you admit it has racist connotations) and instead make the "everything is not perfect" argument to distract from the debate........and to top it off, you accuse me of not being intellectually honest!

    Good grief.
    I'm sorry. But if you cannot represent what I say honestly and without politically correct revisionism, we have nothing to discuss. Have a nice day.
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Not surprising, is there just one branch of government that the Obama administration hasn't politicized ?

    Anyone know ?

    Even the U.S. Patent Office has gone PC.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Not surprising, is there just one branch of government that the Obama administration hasn't politicized ?

    Anyone know ?

    Even the U.S. Patent Office has gone PC.
    APACHERAT!?!?! That's an offensive name, I demand you change it!

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    There's a lot of hurt feelings in this thread.
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    What is your issue with Native Americans? Savages????? That's an accurate term???? Do you not realize how incredibly racist it is to classify an entire race of people as savages because they didn't live in stone houses and own guns? Sheesh..I suppose you think that they should be grateful to be genocided by a much nobler race.

    And then you conflate Redman with Redskin. Seriously? If you can't understand why someone else would find the term offensive, then you pretty much lack any human empathy.
    I will tell you the same thing as I told Gimme. I did NOT classify an entire race of people as savages, but to deny that the Native American peoples had their savage side in their history would be absurd. It would be as absurd as saying that medieval Europeans were never brutal feudal lords or that 18th century descendants of Europeans never owned slaves. To acknowledge that am I saying that a whole race of people were or are slave owners or supporters of feudalism? Is saying that it is historically accurate that at least some black Americans descended from jungle tribes suggesting that an entire race of black people are jungle dwellers? A little intellectual honesty here please.
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Are we talking about the term "Redskin" here...or not?

    The term STILL HAS negative, racist components to it, WHICH YOU ADMITTED TO.....and yet you cannot bring yourself to admit it should not be used by a NFL team (I suppose if a NFL team was named "The Washington Niggers" you would not have an issue with that....even while you admit it has racist connotations) and instead make the "everything is not perfect" argument to distract from the debate........and to top it off, you accuse me of not being intellectually honest!

    Good grief.
    I just asked someone I've known for 30 years who is full blooded Chippewa as well as an advocate of Native American rights, reparation and all that stuff about this. Her sentiments mirror mine. "Red-Skin is about as offensive as "White Dude" is
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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    APACHERAT!?!?! That's an offensive name, I demand you change it!
    The AIM (American Indian Movement) is supposely going after the U.S. Army next since all Army helicopters are named after American Indian tribes.

    After that, I'm next on the hit list.

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    Re: Patent office cancels Redskins trademarks

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    So we should never mention the negative components of accurate history? You did fail to highlight that qualifier you know, which makes your characterization rather intellectually dishonest. Do you feel that it is not right to mention the negative components of history of people other than Native Americans too? That should be off limits? Or is it just the red man who should be exempt from having to deal with their less than commendable past while it is okay that the rest of us know about ours?
    If they were the Washington Braves, I'd say let it be. If they were the Washington Creek, I'd say let it be. Hell, even if they were the Washington Tomahawks. I'd see no reason for change. But, Redskins? I can definitely see why a lot of people take issue with that.

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