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Obama Is Sending 275 US Troops To Iraq

I like that idea, let them deal with the terrorists in Iraq and Syria, that should keep them pretty busy.
 
ecofarm said:
The Iranian regime does not operate like the West. With no desire for democracy, human rights or development, it would simply slaughter the opposition like Assad.
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Let them fight each other till kingdom come, its not worth the blood of a single American soldier to be over there.
 
PoS said:
Let them fight each other till kingdom come, its not worth the blood of a single American soldier to be over there.
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Regarding Iraq, it would be over virtually overnight. The Iranian regime has no interest in development. If it did, it would allow the people online.

The regime would slaughter a million people or more and rule over Iraq just as it does Iran.

The fault in your logic is thinking the Iranian regime cares about development.
 
ecofarm said:
Regarding Iraq, it would be over virtually overnight. The Iranian regime has no interest in development. If it did, it would allow the people online.

The regime would slaughter a million people or more and rule over Iraq just as it does Iran.

The fault in your logic is thinking the Iranian regime cares about development.
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Im not assuming anything. Whatever happens shouldnt be our business. Its not our war.
 
PoS said:
Im not assuming anything. Whatever happens shouldnt be our business. Its not our war.
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None of the US govt's wars are ours. Unfortunately, we still have to pay for it, compliments of the brain-dead critters on Capitol Hill.
 
ecofarm said:
The Iranian regime does not operate like the West. With no desire for democracy, human rights or development, it would simply slaughter the opposition like Assad.
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Sounds exactly like the good 'ol USA (except the US govt's prefers to waterboard).
 
PoS said:
Im not assuming anything. Whatever happens shouldnt be our business. Its not our war.
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You're assuming they will be embroiled in a decades long struggle against Sunni terrorists. Nonsense. They'll slaughter a million or so and rule Iraq just as they do Iran.

I'm not sure how you forgot that part of your claim.


solletica said:
Sounds exactly like the good 'ol USA (except the US govt's prefers to waterboard).
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Yeah, the US is just like Saddam, Assad and the Iranian regime. :roll:
 
MaggieD said:
The left will be happy with whatever President Obama does for they always have Bush to blame.

Personally, I don't think he's doing enough. Can we really afford a full-blown terrorist stronghold in the Middle East? Pay now or pay bigger later.

Edit: I'm sure not well-informed about what's going on, or about Iran, but if Iran will handle it? I say let 'em have at it.
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Not a good idea. Iran will simply grab and consolidate the oil rich south and west and be done with it. We will have made Iran more powerful, ISIS will still be in power in the North (probably turning to Jordan) and neither of those are good for the region or the world.
 
Amadeus said:
Wesley Clark got it right. The neocons wanted to destabilize the Middle East, they just thought they could control the chaos and turn it to their advantage.

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If by neocons you mean Obama, Clinton, and all the rest of the administration cheerleaders during the Arab Spring uprisings...well...sure...I suppose so.
 
ecofarm said:
You're assuming they will be embroiled in a decades long struggle against Sunni terrorists. Nonsense. They'll slaughter a million or so and rule Iraq just as they do Iran.

I'm not sure how you forgot that part of your claim.
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You dont seem to have any reading comprehension, I already said it doesnt matter if its a year (and Iran never killed millions so you are totally exaggerating as usual) or decades (which will probably happen since the Sunnis and the Kurds wont give up without a fight and they got weapons to match the Iranians), as long as we are out of it. Its none of our business to be over there.
 
Dragonfly said:
As much as this hurts..... I must agree.

Withdraw every single US citizen/soldier/diplomat immediately and never return.
Close any embassy or "point of interest" the US has there, and vacate the country completely.


Now.
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Never reurning is not an option.
 
fmw said:
No need for troops. They should be sending in airplanes to evacuate all Americans from anywhere they might be in the country. Time to close the embassy and put Iraq in the rear view mirror.
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And by doing so we'll say to future allies that we can't be trusted. Allowing Iraq to fall will have negative concequences for decades to come.
 
CanadaJohn said:
You don't need 27,000 troops to launch drones for surveillance and/or strategic bombing. Besides, have the Iraqis asked for American troops on the ground? Again, I go back to Ukraine and Putin/Russia. The US gave up control of Iraq - Russia gave up control of the Ukraine. You cannot condemn Russian aggression in Ukraine, in support of those who want them to intervene and then support US aggression in Iraq. In both cases, internal divisions are leading to civil unrest and "revolution". It's not America's place to choose sides in a civil war. But protecting American interests, nationals and property in Iraq is perfectly reasonable and expected.
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Was a terrorist army 10,000 men strong invading The Ukraine?
 
apdst said:
Was a terrorist army 10,000 men strong invading The Ukraine?
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There isn't a terrorist army 10,000 men strong invading Iraq either. This "army", if you consider it one, is made up primarily of Iraqi Sunnis, many of whom have been fighting in Syria. This is an internal, religious, political conflict among Iraqis determining what kind of country they want going forward. Those who don't want to be ruled by terrorist thugs and murderers need to stand up and be heard. I believe they will be.
 
CanadaJohn said:
There isn't a terrorist army 10,000 men strong invading Iraq either. This "army", if you consider it one, is made up primarily of Iraqi Sunnis, many of whom have been fighting in Syria. This is an internal, religious, political conflict among Iraqis determining what kind of country they want going forward. Those who don't want to be ruled by terrorist thugs and murderers need to stand up and be heard. I believe they will be.
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This is a group formed by a merger of ISI and the AQ offshoot in Syria. Their mainbody was formed and organized in Syria and then moved into Iraq. That's an invasion.
 
shrubnose said:
I'm going with Maliki's failure to be inclusive-that's what led to this.
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And I'll add Maliki's refusal to give the USA the SOFA agreement it must have.
Even McCain agreed with that stance in December of 2011.
I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the number of GOP positions just in this thread .
 
apdst said:
It's a rear gaud action.
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well we will see if we are called in to assist the Iraqi's or the Kurds at all. We might yet be - and I imagine that wiping out the convoys of our trucks being driven north to Syria is more appealing than watching them bent to the service of al Qaeda.
 
Blue_State said:
If he wants to pull out the diplomats, that is fine. There has obviously been an escalation of violence in Iraq and it would not be prudent to ignore it and do nothing. Putting troops into the embassy will help secure the area while they make an orchestrated withdrawal, protecting US assets.

Unlike some of his previous moves, you just don't say we are leaving.
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Civilians should not be left in a war zone. Period.
 
VanceMack said:
THAT is the real condemnation of this administration. They have been incompetent since day one. They have supported uprisings without considering consequences, supported the ouster of traditional allies by extremists, and now are supporting terrorist faction in Syria.

Its amateur hour there.
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Possibly. I have to leave room in my mind for at least the possibility that Obama wants this.
 
PoS said:
You dont seem to have any reading comprehension, I already said it doesnt matter if its a year (and Iran never killed millions so you are totally exaggerating as usual) or decades (which will probably happen since the Sunnis and the Kurds wont give up without a fight and they got weapons to match the Iranians), as long as we are out of it. Its none of our business to be over there.
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Then you concede the following claim is nonsense:


PoS said:
Let the Iranians have the Shiite part of Iraq, that pretty much means that they will be tied up fighting the terrorists there for decades to come, it shouldnt be the US problem anymore.
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They'll just kill a million or so and impose totalitarian rule over millions. Why anyone would want that is beyond me.
 
Amadeus said:
Wesley Clark got it right. The neocons wanted to destabilize the Middle East, they just thought they could control the chaos and turn it to their advantage.
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WTF is a 'neocon?' Is that the opposite of a 'neolib' or something? Or are you just making up labels?
 
WTF was Obama thinking when Bush signed the withdrawal agreement back in 2008?


/sarc
 
apdst said:
This is a group formed by a merger of ISI and the AQ offshoot in Syria. Their mainbody was formed and organized in Syria and then moved into Iraq.
That's an invasion.
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Right.

But the Iraqi Sunni's view it as their religious brothers aiding them against oppression by the Shia majority in Iraq.
 
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