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    Re: Obama considers special forces to help in iraq

    Can't imagine being a soldier with this buffoon in charge. Has ever there been so much uncertainty and distrust among our troops of the Commander and Chief?

    Everything perplexes him. Surprised at every turn on everything. Drowning in incompetence and inexperience.

    The VA, IRS, DoJ, prisoner swap, Obamacare, Benghazi, Egypt, Libya, Putin, Crimea, Ukraine, etc, etc, etc,.....and now this ugly terrorist takeover of Iraqi cities he's chosen to abandon for slaughter.

    Perhaps he just needs some time off and a couple rounds of golf.

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    Re: Obama considers special forces to help in iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Damn, this dude is stupid! He could have shored up the Iraqi Army with air support, but no, he wants to put SF units on the ground that will be outnumbered and unsupported.
    Heya Apdst. Not really. After BO screwed up with SOFA and 2011. Only flights we have are coming out of Turkey and Qatar. That's for Recon.

    We would have to rely on Maliki for Co-ordinates and the concern is he would bomb Sunni opposition and the Kurds.

    If we go with Airpower.....we will need people on the ground to spot and paint the enemy. Maliki can't be trusted.

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    Re: Obama considers special forces to help in iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Apdst. Not really. After BO screwed up with SOFA and 2011. Only flights we have are coming out of Turkey and Qatar. That's for Recon.

    We would have to rely on Maliki for Co-ordinates and the concern is he would bomb Sunni opposition and the Kurds.

    If we go with Airpower.....we will need people on the ground to spot and paint the enemy. Maliki can't be trusted.
    We can use visual aquisiition. The only massed target in theater right now is ISIS.
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    Re: Obama considers special forces to help in iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A sronger Obama?

    You be sure and let us know when that happens!
    It's happeneiong right now--I'd expect you to be missing that tho.
    Do you agree with Bush neo-cons/O'Reilly/Rove that we should have left 10,000 on the ground?
    Without legal protection-
    to have more Ben-gha-zies
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    Re: Obama considers special forces to help in iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    It's happeneiong right now--I'd expect you to be missing that tho.
    Do you agree with Bush neo-cons/O'Reilly/Rove that we should have left 10,000 on the ground?
    Without legal protection-
    to have more Ben-gha-zies
    It's happening? Where?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
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    Re: Obama considers special forces to help in iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Apdst. Not really. After BO screwed up with SOFA and 2011.
    Stop right here with this lie from you Bush/FOX neo-cons M .
    Only flights we have are coming out of Turkey and Qatar. That's for Recon.
    should it just be the USA only bombing, further inflaming all Arabs--
    We would have to rely on Maliki for Co-ordinates and the concern is he would bomb Sunni opposition and the Kurds.
    Yet it's Obama who is at fault for Maliki not giving us a SOFA--still blaming.
    If we go with Airpower.....we will need people on the ground to spot and paint the enemy. Maliki can't be trusted.
    But Maliki could be trusted in 2011 to bargain for a SOFA -
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    Re: Obama considers special forces to help in iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We can use visual aquisiition. The only massed target in theater right now is ISIS.
    According to Admiral Kirby there is know way to know. That's why they have held off with Air. Whats happened is ISIS has recruited the Baathists and Sunni who are all against Maliki and his government. They have filled ISIS ranks and then some. They are not terrorists. Kirby and others said they even fought to drive AQ out.

    Also the other Problem is.....Due to ISIS taking the Military Base. Not only did they pick up 72 tanks. They think they took all the Stinger Missiles that were housed in that base.

    In the meantime.....Assad has been pounding ISIS and even their headquarters inside Syria. Which was after Assad discovered them bringing tanks over into Syria.

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    Re: Obama considers special forces to help in iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not worth a response.
    True none the less.

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    Re: Obama considers special forces to help in iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Stop right here with this lie from you Bush/FOX neo-cons M .

    should it just be the USA only bombing, further inflaming all Arabs--

    Yet it's Obama who is at fault for Maliki not giving us a SOFA--still blaming.

    But Maliki could be trusted in 2011 to bargain for a SOFA -


    Its not a lie.....read what all the experts and analysts say. BO dropped the Ball It was BO who did not use diplomacy to protect US Interests. Not for Iraq and not even for the region with Iraq.

    NO the Europeans should be up and moving as of 3 days ago. They want no involvement. Plus the Turks should be about getting their people back.

    Yes.....its BO's fault. BO was giving aid to the Syrian Rebels. BO knew Al Nusra and ISIS were taking the Equipment from the Muslim Brotherhood backed Rebels.

    Just because Maliki can't be trusted was no reason for BO not to press policy with him. Nice try.....its BO's fault.

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    Re: Obama considers special forces to help in iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you blane The Red Brigade on FDR?
    Wow, that's a leap in logic. We didn't invade Germany or Japan on a pretext. Japan had attacked us, and we Germany had already declared war on us. And they, the aggessors, set in motion much of what came after. But, trying to keep making the false comparisons to WWII is just silly. This compares on no level.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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