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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Underage drinking is a leading contributor to death from injuries, which are the main cause of death for people under age 21. Each year, approximately 5,000 persons under the age of 21 die from causes related to underage drinking. These deaths include about 1,600 homicides and 300 suicides. Firearm homicides
    •Number of deaths: 11,078
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    Your two examples do not reflect a challenge to what I said at all.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    That trumps my rights how?
    Hoard all of the guns that you want. But the moment that you give or sell one of those pieces to a convicted felon/criminal and they go out and shoot someone you're responsible for that crime. You have no right to give a gun that you own to someone who you know is going to go out and commit murder. Same as if you give your car keys to an unlicensed drunk driver and they run someone down, you're responsible for that as well.
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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Hoard all of the guns that you want. But the moment that you give or sell one of those pieces to a convicted felon/criminal and they go out and shoot someone you're responsible for that crime. You have no right to give a gun that you own to someone who you know is going to go out and commit murder. Same as if you give your car keys to an unlicensed drunk driver and they run someone down, you're responsible for that as well.
    My property, will do as I please. And pleasing you are anyone else is not my issue. Its called personal responsibility. I handle my responsibilities and you handle yours, and I don't need the government telling me how.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    My property, will do as I please. And pleasing you are anyone else is not my issue. Its called personal responsibility. I handle my responsibilities and you handle yours, and I don't need the government telling me how.
    Only in your mind. You hand over a weapon or a car to someone and they kill someone with them, then you are complicit. Same as if you were the felon shooter or drunk driver.
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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Only in your mind. You hand over a weapon or a car to someone and they kill someone with them, then you are complicit. Same as if you were the felon shooter or drunk driver.
    You are still not understanding my question. How does this trump my 2A rights?

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Hoard all of the guns that you want. But the moment that you give or sell one of those pieces to a convicted felon/criminal and they go out and shoot someone you're responsible for that crime.
    Why do those on the left have so much problem assigning responsibility to those that actually commit murder? It's the gun, it's the shop, it's the manufacturer. No, it's the PERSON THAT KILLED PEOPLE.
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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    You are still not understanding my question. How does this trump my 2A rights?
    You have ZERO right to give or sell a firearm that you legally own to a convicted criminal for the intent of murder.
    Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he can sit in a boat, drinking beer all day while you fool around with his Woman.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    You have ZERO right
    That's what you are trying to say. Fess up.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Why do those on the left have so much problem assigning responsibility to those that actually commit murder? It's the gun, it's the shop, it's the manufacturer. No, it's the PERSON THAT KILLED PEOPLE.
    Agai,n someone who sells buys a gun for a criminal who can't purchase a gun on their own for the intent of murder is also responsible for that murder.
    Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he can sit in a boat, drinking beer all day while you fool around with his Woman.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What I mean is that the 2nd amendment does not invalidate any and all gun control laws. Background checks are constitutionally valid.
    under the tortured FDR mutation of the commerce clause yes-because Federally licensed dealers engage in interstate commerce by receiving firearms made in other states. However, a private seller of a second hand firearm is PROHIBITED by federal law from selling that firearm ACROSS state lines and thus a federal law requiring such a seller to conduct a background check is UNCONSTITUTIONAL because intra-state sales of second hand goods that no longer move in INTER state commerce is not a sufficient nexus-pursuant to the LOPEZ V USA holding-to create federal jurisdiction



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