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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    To be honest, I am a bit torn on this decision. On one hand, buying a gun to give to another, in order to circumvent the system of background checks, should be a crime. On the other hand, if I wanted to buy a present for a friend who is having a birthday, would I be breaking the law? It appears that I would be, and that is where I disagree with this decision.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    To be honest, I am a bit torn on this decision. On one hand, buying a gun to give to another, in order to circumvent the system of background checks, should be a crime. On the other hand, if I wanted to buy a present for a friend who is having a birthday, would I be breaking the law? It appears that I would be, and that is where I disagree with this decision.

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    Article is here.
    As far as a gift purchase goes, one could simply give them cash or a store gift card instead and let the gift recipient make the actual gun purchase.
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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Well, they aren't. Rights can be taken away with due process of law. Someone who robs a bank with a gun doesn't get to own a gun any more, sorry if this bothers you so much.
    The whole purpose of incarceration is to keep them in jail for the appropriate time of punishment. If they aren't deemed to be safe in society if they own a firearm, they shouldn't be out of jail in the first place.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    sorry that has nothing to do with the "yes", voiced.....the federal government has no authority over firearms as a whole for the "people", ...because the bill of rights places a restriction on them to create any such law.

    rights for an individual citiznes can be curtailed, if they have broken the law.......
    Well-regulated militia.
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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The whole purpose of incarceration is to keep them in jail for the appropriate time of punishment. If they aren't deemed to be safe in society if they own a firearm, they shouldn't be out of jail in the first place.
    I'm sure the prison-industrial complex would agree.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    To be honest, I am a bit torn on this decision. On one hand, buying a gun to give to another, in order to circumvent the system of background checks, should be a crime. On the other hand, if I wanted to buy a present for a friend who is having a birthday, would I be breaking the law? It appears that I would be, and that is where I disagree with this decision.

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    Article is here.
    There shouldn't be any background checks in the first place.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I'm sure the prison-industrial complex would agree.
    It's simple logic. If they are too dangerous to own a firearm, they shouldn't be out. It's completely idiotic, that someone who gets a felony for possession of marijuann when their 19 can't even own a firearm when their 50. The logic is completely out the window on that one.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Well-regulated militia.
    sorry no...the 2nd is not a power to the federal government ...ITS A RESTRICTION ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT


    The Preamble to The Bill of Rights

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    begun and held at the City of New-York, on
    Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

    THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its [FEDERAL] powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

    "congress shall make no law"....... concerning the right to bear arms of the people

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You think background checks are unconstitutional?
    Yes. Simply buying a gun is not probable cause to violate my 4th amendment right and perform a background check. Background checks at point-of-sale are unconstitutional.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    To be honest, I am a bit torn on this decision. On one hand, buying a gun to give to another, in order to circumvent the system of background checks, should be a crime. On the other hand, if I wanted to buy a present for a friend who is having a birthday, would I be breaking the law? It appears that I would be, and that is where I disagree with this decision.

    Discussion?

    Article is here.
    Once I buy it, its mine to do with what I want. Period end of story.

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