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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    It's already started.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/gun-co...-thoughts.html

    There are several pieces of proposed legislation bouncing around that would make even a lay determination of mental instability grounds for confiscation of firearms and a few of the EO's Obama signed after Newtown are being used as the basis for that legislation.

    We're heading in a very dangerous direction here.
    Well, when it comes to 'confiscation' I have to wonder who is subject to said confiscation when the patient is a minor. Parents? Grandparents? Aunts/Uncles? Parents of friends? I mean, if I were to carry this out to its final conclusion no one would be allowed to have a gun because we all have someone mentally ill in our families. And I am including in that definition those who over imbibe.
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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Well, they aren't. Rights can be taken away with due process of law. Someone who robs a bank with a gun doesn't get to own a gun any more, sorry if this bothers you so much.
    If that person is too dangerous to own a gun he is too dangerous to be on the streets and should be in jail.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Well, when it comes to 'confiscation' I have to wonder who is subject to said confiscation when the patient is a minor. Parents? Grandparents? Aunts/Uncles? Parents of friends? I mean, if I were to carry this out to its final conclusion no one would be allowed to have a gun because we all have someone mentally ill in our families. And I am including in that definition those who over imbibe.
    "....no one would be allowed to have a gun because .....".

    Yeah, that's pretty much the plan as far as I can tell.

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    The idea is that if you can't repeal the 2A (which would be the gun grabbers first choice) then you come up with a way to circumvent it.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    As you just said, probable cause is required to run the check. Simply buying an item which is generaly legal to own isn't probable cause that the buyer is committing a crime. This means the courts are as wrong as when they upheld slavory and said the right to vote doesn't apply to women. Relying on faulty county rulings doesn't serve you. I suggest taking a grain of salt when you read their gospel and use a bit of independant thought.
    Actually no, have you tried buying a beer, some cigarettes maybe? Did you get carded? Most places card everyone who looks under 25 (hell some card everyone who buys beer or cigarettes) Both are 'generally legal' to own.

    Slavery and sufferage are poor eqivs. How did both become 'legal'? Laws were passed and the Courts held they were Constitutional. THAT is how our system works...

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If that person is too dangerous to own a gun he is too dangerous to be on the streets and should be in jail.
    Who was it who said, 'no generalization is worth a damn, including this one?'
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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Well-regulated militia.
    A militia is made up of civilians, not members of the service.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Who was it who said, 'no generalization is worth a damn, including this one?'
    Your point?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    To be honest, I am a bit torn on this decision. On one hand, buying a gun to give to another, in order to circumvent the system of background checks, should be a crime. On the other hand, if I wanted to buy a present for a friend who is having a birthday, would I be breaking the law? It appears that I would be, and that is where I disagree with this decision.

    Discussion?

    Article is here.

    If it is bought for someone who is legal to own a gun, it should not be a crime.


    Think about how ridiculous this is... making it a CRIME punishable by imprisonment, to legally buy a legal product and give it to someone who is legally allowed to own same. Insanity.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Your point?
    You don't get my point? Really? ???????
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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I said I bet. You are right. But in my 51 years, I have heard and seen more kids dying from underage drinking than from gun shots. Through my job and from just paying attention. You may want to try it.
    Last month a 4 year old child was gunned down outside of her home by a Gang member with a gun bought by someone else legally then sold to this piece of ****. The buyer knew whom he was selling too and what the weapon was going to be used for. This is a common thing. These bangers aren't law abiding citizens legally buying guns. If you buy a gun for someone that you know is a criminal and they're going out and murder with that weapon then you also pulled the trigger of that firearm.
    Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he can sit in a boat, drinking beer all day while you fool around with his Woman.

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