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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    They call them AR15's.
    Sorry, forgot you prudish Conservatives can't get a joke if it's sexual in context. My bad.

    Violence and fear on the other hand... those you understand.
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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    I do not disagree that there are times violence is necessary to defend oneself and/or family. But you use a gun to cause harm in the name of defense. Guns, by their very nature, is offense.
    Hahahahaha, I tell ya. The liberals have an answer for everything. 10K killed in DUI accidents in 2012 but you are worried about the few killed by guns.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    I do not disagree that there are times violence is necessary to defend oneself and/or family. But you use a gun to cause harm in the name of defense. Guns, by their very nature, is offense.
    The implement is neutral. You can't reasonably attribute intent to an inanimate object.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Sorry, forgot you prudish Conservatives can't get a joke if it's sexual in context. My bad.

    Violence on the other hand... that you understand.
    I am not the subject of discussion. Perhaps you should practice posting jokes in order to get better at it.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Alcohol's main function is not poisoning, it's entertainment.

    The main function of an item is very important as to whether or not it should be regulated. A nuclear bomb's main function is to kill large numbers of people, but you could use it as defense against your government's overreach. Just because you want to use it as such doesn't mean we should allow you to have it for the purpose you claim.
    Oh, you a scientist too? You CAN drink alcohol. But Alcohol has many many more uses.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Oh, you a scientist too? You CAN drink alcohol. But Alcohol has many many more uses.
    Let's not forget the millions of seniors on Warfarin as a blood thinner .... aka Rat Poison.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    a solid decision supported by both the Constitution and a long history of American jurisprudence giving the thumbs up to reasonable regulation and legislation in this area.

    Of course, some will say these are INFRINGEMENTS - but it just goes to show you how ridiculous that argument is.
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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Alcohol's main function is not poisoning, it's entertainment.
    You know what, reading back I was wrong. I thought I read you saying their main function is to kill. Reading back I see that you stated their main function is as a weapon. As such, the analogy I suggested doesn't work. My mistake with regards to reading what you wrote.

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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    To be honest, I am a bit torn on this decision. On one hand, buying a gun to give to another, in order to circumvent the system of background checks, should be a crime. On the other hand, if I wanted to buy a present for a friend who is having a birthday, would I be breaking the law? It appears that I would be, and that is where I disagree with this decision.

    Discussion?

    Article is here.
    actually the 5 probably were right if he bought the gun purely for his uncle and it was not a gift. It was a straw purchase. Now I don't believe the federal government has the proper power to make such a law but I believe that the law as written, prohibits this sort of straw purchase. The Law should be changed to only punish transfers to prohibited persons though



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    Re: Supreme Court rules on 'straw purchaser' law

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I somewhat agree with you, here is the actual language used on form 4473:



    Technically, you are acquiring the firearm for yourself, but for the purpose of gifting it to another in the very near future.
    that is the correct interpretation of the law

    If I buy a gun with the intent of giving it to say my brother I am the actual purchaser. If I tell my brother I am going to Joe's Gun warehouse to pick up a new Glock and he gives me 500 and says gets one too, that is a straw purchase and I am not the actual buyer of the gun and it is a violation (perjury) of the law



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