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    Re: John Kerry: U.S. Open To Cooperating With Iran Over Iraq Conflict

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    if internationally shared responsibility and actually paying for these police actions "just ain't gonna happen," then count me as a no vote. i'm not convinced that we can stabilize an entire region anyway, and it would probably require long term occupation. perhaps Saudi Arabia should assemble a military and give it a try instead.
    I agree entirely. Also, Saudi Arabia doesn't want the region stable. They actively back terrorists to undermine their enemies in Iraq and Iran (and just generally give aid to terrorists).
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    Re: John Kerry: U.S. Open To Cooperating With Iran Over Iraq Conflict

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I agree entirely. Also, Saudi Arabia doesn't want the region stable. They actively back terrorists to undermine their enemies in Iraq and Iran (and just generally give aid to terrorists).
    Saudi Arabia mostly wants to sell oil, make money, and buy expensive cars and gold airplanes, but it does also want stability. they just want the West to do it for them, and the West has to do it because we refuse to replace oil.

    if there was a growing civil war in South America which was causing regional instability, Saudi Arabia wouldn't lift a finger to help. we need to get out of that region of the world so that they have to do something about it.

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    Re: John Kerry: U.S. Open To Cooperating With Iran Over Iraq Conflict

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Saudi Arabia mostly wants to sell oil, make money, and buy expensive cars and gold airplanes, but it does also want stability. they just want the West to do it for them, and the West has to do it because we refuse to replace oil.

    if there was a growing civil war in South America which was causing regional instability, Saudi Arabia wouldn't lift a finger to help. we need to get out of that region of the world so that they have to do something about it.
    Well, I would say that they want stability in their own country, but the Saudis do have a history of funding terrorism. (Report Links Saudis, Al-Qaeda - Defense/Middle East - News - Arutz Sheva) (Shocking cable: US says Saudi donors are chief financiers of al Qaeda) (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/wo...audi.html?_r=0)

    Also, I would not say that we refuse to replace oil, but there are economic and political interests that actively discourage seeking out alternative energy sources.

    But I do agree we should leave the MECA (Middle East/Central Asia) region.
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    Re: John Kerry: U.S. Open To Cooperating With Iran Over Iraq Conflict

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    We've been reduced to asking Iran, which wants us eliminated from existence, to solve our problems for us.
    This isn't our problem, what are you talking about. The US removed the only stabilising force in Iraq leaving it in chaos and the Sunnis and Shia free to resume fighting, that Saddam didn't allow. It is however Iran's problem now considering that a border country is in ruin. What would be ironic is if Iran is able to bring a stability to Iraq that US foreign policy failed miserably at.
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