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Us pushing local cops to stay mum on surveillance

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration has been quietly advising local police not to disclose details about surveillance technology they are using to sweep up basic cellphone data from entire neighborhoods, The Associated Press has learned.
Citing security reasons, the U.S. has intervened in routine state public records cases and criminal trials regarding use of the technology. This has resulted in police departments withholding materials or heavily censoring documents in rare instances when they disclose any about the purchase and use of such powerful surveillance equipment.
Federal involvement in local open records proceedings is unusual. It comes at a time when President Barack Obama has said he welcomes a debate on government surveillance and called for more transparency about spying in the wake of disclosures about classified federal surveillance programs.


But without more details about how the technology works and under what circumstances it's used, it's unclear whether the technology might violate a person's constitutional rights or whether it's a good investment of taxpayer dollars.
Interviews, court records and public-records requests show the Obama administration is asking agencies to withhold common information about the equipment, such as how the technology is used and how to turn it on. That pushback has come in the form of FBI affidavits and consultation in local criminal cases.
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Yup. If you are not pissed yet, here is another one to try to get you more pissed, but if you are already pissed here is some more fuel to fill your anger.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Yup. If you are not pissed yet, here is another one to try to get you more pissed, but if you are already pissed here is some more fuel to fill your anger. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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Why are you pissed?
 
ecofarm said:
We live in tyranny.
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Tyranny? No. Not tyranny. Just a giant 2 party system that is surveyed. We like decent up until a certain point. But other than that, tyranny? No.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Tyranny? No. Not tyranny. Just a giant 2 party system that is surveyed. We like decent up until a certain point. But other than that, tyranny? No.
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Meta data is not exactly surveyed. The only mass survey we're subject to are the partisan polls many members flaunt about. I'd protest that.
 
 
 
ecofarm said:
That's all meta, no actual survey or spying.
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Nobody has been spying on me.

I ain't buying it.

Nobody was spying on Lois Lerner, either.
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
Big brother. Why arent you pissed? You like giving up simple liberties? We are all suspects now.
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Subjects now. We are all subjects now. All subjects are suspects. ;)

But in the end, for the most part anger is a counterproductive emotion. Sometimes necessary, but often counterproductive.
 
ecofarm said:
I wouldn't be so sure.



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Are you threatening my personal cyber security?

How many fingers am I holding up right now?
 
SMTA said:
Are you threatening my personal cyber security?

How many fingers am I holding up right now?
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I'm not the NSA.

One...
 
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I agree with the police surveilling & spying on certain Americans, but they're probably using a dragnet like the N.S.A. and doing intel on everyone.
 
SMTA said:
Nobody has been spying on me.

I ain't buying it.

Nobody was spying on Lois Lerner, either.
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That's because she was doing the job of the system. .. of course they have the data.

There are people that have even tried to sue for the NSA data that would prove beyond any doubt that they are innocent. .. always refused as national security.

The data is only to be used against the people, not to help.
 
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