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IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

Really now?? Are you setting in the bar ditch? I support an investigation, and if it uncovers illegal acts, I certainly hope somebody goes to jail, AND..............I hope it will serve as a wake up call to all future presidents, republican and democratic as well, that such behaviour won't be tolerated. Now then, what reasonable and objective person would take issue with that position??

yes really.

If you actually were concerned, I see no reason to attempt to mitigate the violation by pointing out how it happens all the time inthe past. That line of reasoning can only lesson the call for stopping it now.
 
yes really.

If you actually were concerned, I see no reason to attempt to mitigate the violation by pointing out how it happens all the time inthe past. That line of reasoning can only lesson the call for stopping it now.

How many times, in how many ways must I interpret this for you. I dare not mitigate any Obama administration violation and pray that if an investigation uncovers any that we see prosecution and conviction of any and all involved. The only purpose served by pointing back to Bush (Clinton, Reagan, Nixon, Johnson, etc., etc.) is an attempt to get people to realise and acknowledge this is a systemic problem not limited to the Obama administration. That with the hope that just maybe, partisans on both sides would begin to hold their party responsible as well as the easy lift of pointing out the other guys sins. But that takes courage, maturity and a passion for justice, rather then a lust for power and control.
 
ok, now tell us which of the unavailable emails consists of records containing adequate and proper documentation of the organization, functions, policies, decisions, procedures, and essential transactions of the IRS

Which part of "the emails were intentionally destroyed" do you not understand?
 
Dr. Paul Craig Roberts was assistant treasury secretary for the reason administration, and co-founder of Reaganomics, Rense.com is merely quoting him. Roberts has itemised a laundry list of Bush crimes! It was a memo from #10 Downing Street that disclosed the information that Bush (not Clinton) had fixed the intelligence around his Iraq policy, sorry!

Reason administration?
 
Would you expect the radical right group at FOX.com to be forthcoming with the truth??

J. Russell George, who serves as an IRS watchdog at the U.S. Treasury, told the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee that only last week did his office receive documents showing the term "progressive" was used to flag cases for additional review.

"The moment I became aware that other groups were spotlighted by the IRS, I directed my staff to commence review of that," George said.

"I am very disturbed that these documents were not provided to our auditors at the outset," he said. "They were not provided during our audit, even though similar documents that list 'Tea Party' … were."


Inspector says IRS withheld info on targeting liberals

I still cannot take you seriously. Suggesting that FoxNews is a radical right group is just digging yourself into a bigger hole. Yes...Fox leans to the right, however you seem to be of the mindset that any source that is not leftwing is radical far right wing. You don't seem to have a compass of what is mainstream right or left, Like it or not, FoxNews is a mainstream media source. The fact that they get better ratings then all of the other cable news outlets bears that out. I would not have complained if you had used a left leaning mainstream source like MSNBC or CBS, etc. However Rense and Salon on laughable. You might as well be quoting from the tabloids such as the National Enquirer.
 
The IRS under Obama admitted to targeting American Citizens based on their Political ideology.

And then lied about two " rogue agents " in Cincinnati.

Admitted to releasing Highly confidential Tax payer information to a Left wing activist group.

Admitted to destroying evidence and admitted to not following the Federal Records act.

President Obama and the Democrats response ? " Not a smidgen of corruption "...

So is this still a " Fake ' scandal ?
 
Which part of "the emails were intentionally destroyed" do you not understand?

then i take it that your post, asserting that such incriminating emails were lost, is without basis, given that you are unable to accept the challenge to show us the evidence of your false assertion
next!
 
Gee, I dunno....which unavailable emails do you think pertain?

which is why that was such an absurd post
as if he KNEW the contents of unrecoverable emails
he's one of yours. deal with it
 
then i take it that your post, asserting that such incriminating emails were lost, is without basis, given that you are unable to accept the challenge to show us the evidence of your false assertion
next!

Intentionally destroyed...not lost. And btw, we are still waiting for proof from the Bush haters that Bush manipulated intelligence on wmds in Iraq to get us into war.
 
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Intentionally destroyed...not lost. And btw, we are still waiting for proof from the Bush haters that Bush manipulated intelligence on wmds in Iraq to get us into war.
show us your evidence of the intentional destruction of incriminating emails
 
show us your evidence of the intentional destruction of incriminating emails

So just to be clear, your view is that incriminating e-mails were accidentally lost forever and that this wasn't intentional at all. Correct?
 
So just to be clear, your view is that incriminating e-mails were accidentally lost forever and that this wasn't intentional at all. Correct?

in my view emails were lost. we do not know if they were incriminating as nothing has been proven to show that the IRS engaged in unlawful activities ... as was stated by the republican appointed IRS IG during congressional hearings
all we now know is that the IRS storage protocol compelled the routine deletion of emails periodically
what is not known is whether those emails remain available on other servers, and to what extent the government has pursued the restoration of those emails
what i have read is that learner lost emails and notified her IT staff in a timely manner of that loss prior to the subpoena soliciting those (and other) emails. it appears her hard drive was destroyed, and nothing has been presented to show that was not also a routine action, consistent with IRS IT protocol

now, tell me what facts i have missed
especially facts about intentional deletion of incriminating records
i don't need your speculation as we have 44 pages of that thus far
 
show us your evidence of the intentional destruction of incriminating emails
Show us your evidence that the missing emails were not incriminating. It is proper to draw negative inference from them, and any jury would be instructed such.
 
show us your evidence of the intentional destruction of incriminating emails

Show us your evidence that they were not destroyed intentionally.
 
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after you show us how to divide by zero
i will then prove your negative

The thing is, from what I understand, it's very difficult to actually destroy data. Lose it, yes; destroy it, no. I'm not tech-savvy, but I do know that data is generally recoverable and also that multiple systems don't "crash" at the same time very often.
 
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Excuse me if I don't believe these people. Someone needs to go to jail, and we the people need to know what the hell is going on with the IRS and the White House.

For anyone that has been audited, you know that the onus is on you to disprove whatever the IRS says was on your hard drive or lost records. As you know, it is practically impossible to disprove a negative. The same method of IRS enforcement should apply to themselves.
 
The thing is, from what I understand, it's very difficult to actually destroy data. Lose it, yes; destroy it, no. I'm not tech-savvy, but I do know that data is generally recoverable and also that multiple systems don't "crash" at the same time very often.

hopefully, the republican dominated house also knows that and will finally act on that belief
quit grandstanding and have someone independently investigate the nature of the data loss. show us whether it was a nefarious incident or a legitimate one
 
after you show us how to divide by zero
i will then prove your negative

Using your logic.....If a burglar robs your home, and leaves no evidence behind other then "your belongings are missing" and he's never caught...then it never actually happened.
 
Using your logic.....If a burglar robs your home, and leaves no evidence behind other then "your belongings are missing" and he's never caught...then it never actually happened.
how do you know it was a burglar and not your kids' drug addicted friend who was responsible for the theft
act on facts instead of speculation
 
how do you know it was a burglar and not your kids' drug addicted friend who was responsible for the theft
act on facts instead of speculation


No worries, the corrupt Liberal actors in the IRS scandal will have to decide if they want to continue to lie to a Federal judge.

July 10th.

This ought to be good.

Oh and all thanks to Judicial Watch ! Aren't they awesome !!
 
Using your logic.....If a burglar robs your home, and leaves no evidence behind other then "your belongings are missing" and he's never caught...then it never actually happened.


Hey, Judicial Watch was able to force a hearing with a Federal judge.

Its on July 10th. I'm marking my Calendar !

Now, finally these liars and scum will have to decide if they want to perjur themselves infront of someone who can do something about it.

Someone should start a thread.
 
Using your logic.....If a burglar robs your home, and leaves no evidence behind other then "your belongings are missing" and he's never caught...then it never actually happened.

If it was logic being used, you are right on. But it's not, it's partisan defending of those he supports, nothing more. Excuse making.
 
how do you know it was a burglar and not your kids' drug addicted friend who was responsible for the theft
act on facts instead of speculation

Well, at least you accept that it would at least be a theft....that a crime did occur. That's progress.
 
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