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IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

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IRS: So

The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) claimed Friday that it cannot produce Lois Lerner’s emails to and from the White House and other administration departments due to a supposed computer crash...

Excuse me if I don't believe these people. Someone needs to go to jail, and we the people need to know what the hell is going on with the IRS and the White House.
 
IRS: So

Excuse me if I don't believe these people. Someone needs to go to jail, and we the people need to know what the hell is going on with the IRS and the White House.

I don't believe it either. Maybe a tech-savvy someone will check in on this thread. But my common sense tells me that "every computer within the IRS" is backed up every hour. I say a crash that would have lost all these emails is a bold-faced lie.
 
It is possible for a computer crash but between the IRS server backups and the backups from all the other executive departments who she corresponded, I'm sure they can recreate everything they need.
 
It's 100% total bull**** from a sysadmin's perspective. If any business had given the IRS this excuse they'd be seizing their computers and equipment as we speak.
 
Typical bureaucratic horse****.
 
It's 100% total bull**** from a sysadmin's perspective. If any business had given the IRS this excuse they'd be seizing their computers and equipment as we speak.

Agreed, as someone who is also in Enterprise IT, there is NO WAY IN THE WORLD that the IRS does not have back up and disaster recovery, that is total BS, and congress should not take it as a truth. Their Exchange servers or whatever they use is backed up in real time, it has to be.


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Its BS look you have to reformat a hard drive three times before the .gov even considers it to be cleaned and then they can still pull information off of it.
So a computer crash to lose her emails would mean they LOST ALL OTHER INFORMATION AS WELL. Guess what I do not buy this BS story.
 
It's 100% total bull**** from a sysadmin's perspective. If any business had given the IRS this excuse they'd be seizing their computers and equipment as we speak.

Yes, this is total crap. There is not just one computer that crashes and they lose everything. So much would have to go wrong to not be able to recover these emails. A computer crash usually doesn't lose any data, it would still be on the hard drive(s), back up drives, tape, off-site back ups, etc...
 
You know what's funny? That this lame "the dog ate my homework" type excuse is probably going to stick and be defended to the hilt. That's have ****ed up our country has become.
 
Yes, utter BS. If anything they destroyed emails because they knew what was in them was bad.

The two-year gap | Power Line

he IRS has informed the House Ways and Means Committee that it has lost Lois Lerner email messages from January 2009–April 2011. Harkening back to the allegedly accidental erasure of 18 1/2 minutes of critical Oval Office recordings that contributed to Richard Nixon’s resignation from office, the IRS attributes the loss of Lerner email to a computer crash.

Some email survives: the agency retains Lerner email to and from other IRS employees during this period. The IRS claims it cannot produce email written only to or from Lerner and outside agencies or groups, such as the White House, Treasury, Department of Justice, FEC, or offices of Democrat congressmen. Funny how that works.



Reminder: The charge that Richard Nixon “endeavored” to misuse the IRS made its way into the second of the three articles of impeachment voted against him by the House Judiciary Committee. Nixon’s efforts to misuse the IRS were futile. They went nowhere. Nixon and his henchmen desired the IRS to “screw” their political opponents, but their efforts were a pathetic failure.

Nixon henchman Jack Caulfield astutely complained that the IRS was a “monstrous bureaucracy…dominated and controlled by Democrats.” As we have come to see, Caulfield was on to something. By contrast with Nixon’s failures to misuse the IRS, the IRS has very effectively “screwed” Obama’s political opponents, and we have yet to learn what the president knew and when he knew it.


It's somewhat amusing that there are now calls for meta data from the NSA for these email accounts, to try and see who emails were sent to/from. Considering that 'the government' is fine with NSA spying on us, if they get data from NSA in this case, you can probably count on politicians double thinking allowing the NSA to continue this data collection….

Stockman asks NSA for Lois Lerner metadata after IRS claims

Congressman Steve Stockman Friday asked the National Security Agency to turn over all its metadata on the email accounts of former Internal Revenue Service Exempt Organizations division director Lois Lerner for the period between January 2009 and April 2011.
The request comes just hours after the IRS claimed it “lost” all of Lerner’s emails to or from Lerner and outside agencies or groups during that period, in which she allegedly coordinated with the White House, House Democrats and political groups to harass and deny tax-exempt status to groups critical of the President. The IRS blames a “computer glitch” for erasing the emails which could have implicated Agency employees in illegal activity.
 
Un-friking-believable... Is there a person alive with an IQ over 10 who actually believes this BS?
 
Un-friking-believable... Is there a person alive with an IQ over 10 who actually believes this BS?

I'm waiting to see one post in this thread. No doubt there will be at least one. Should we start a pool on who it's gonna be?
 
I don't believe it either. Maybe a tech-savvy someone will check in on this thread. But my common sense tells me that "every computer within the IRS" is backed up every hour. I say a crash that would have lost all these emails is a bold-faced lie.
I wonder what exactly they mean?
Does anyone know what the IRS actually said?
 
... then they can still pull information off of it.
Do you have a cite for this actually being done--someone pulling data off of a drive which has been wiped as you say?
Or just one where someone idly speculates that this sort of thing may be theoretically possible?
 
According to the IRS, the computer crash in question occurred in 2011, prior to the the targeting scandal coming to light, and though Lerner attempted to have the hard drive in questions salvaged, IT staff were unable to recover the data because sectors of the drive had gone bad.

Read more: IRS lost two years of Lois Lerner's email in Tea Party Probe, blames computer crash - UPI.com

It's certainly possible for this to be true, but it points toward some mismanagement or negligence on the part of the IT crew.
Generally accepted practices prevent just this sort of thing from happening.
I wonder what there data retention policies are.
 
Come on now.

This is the "most transparent" regime in the history of man kind. Look at that, so willing to admit their little computer crashed and they have nothing to support their transparency so just believe them and move on - nothing here to see.


IRS: So



Excuse me if I don't believe these people. Someone needs to go to jail, and we the people need to know what the hell is going on with the IRS and the White House.
 
Wow. I mean WOW!

Do they really think anyone (outside of the ones that fondle their balls) is going to believe this? ****ing bull****, man.
 
Do you have a cite for this actually being done--someone pulling data off of a drive which has been wiped as you say?
Or just one where someone idly speculates that this sort of thing may be theoretically possible?

I served as a court appointed drive recovery specialist on one case. It's not something I do every day (thank God), but it wasn't difficult at all, just takes time and tools that are readily available.

Plus, if you look into it you'll find the tech companies use drive shredders to guard against that. Even a BFM (big ****in' magnet) isn't considered as enough anymore.
 
Do you have a cite for this actually being done--someone pulling data off of a drive which has been wiped as you say?
Or just one where someone idly speculates that this sort of thing may be theoretically possible?

You dont know how hard drives work do you? Ok here is a link WARNING there is a bit of disinfo here as well but then the last option on how to truly "wipe" a hard drive is a bit down they write over the file 35 TIMES yes 35 TIMES. because just formatting a disk one time will not "wipe" the .gov recommends formatting 3 TIMES, the actual way to do it is to destroy the hard drive. It never gets erased truly.

3 Ways to Permanently Erase Data Off a Hard Drive - wikiHow

Mac OS X

Permanent Eraser: Can be used as an alternative to the "Secure empty trash" option. It overwrites the files 35 times.

Why 35 times? wouldnt just delete work? well no or how about format? well no LOL
Notice how they OVERWRITE IT 35 TIMES? lol seriously 35 TIMES? guess three was not enough.

when you DELETE a file it just removes the file location from memory, if some thing overwrites it well means nothing really.
 
So, when are all the pissed off people marching in on Washington to do some lynching?
 
IRS: So



Excuse me if I don't believe these people. Someone needs to go to jail, and we the people need to know what the hell is going on with the IRS and the White House.

f-ing liars in the administration.

dumb ****s in media buy it.

this is your smoking gun people!!

the house of representatives needs to use its legal authority which it has and but lener in jail!!
 
According to the IRS, the computer crash in question occurred in 2011, prior to the the targeting scandal coming to light, and though Lerner attempted to have the hard drive in questions salvaged, IT staff were unable to recover the data because sectors of the drive had gone bad.

Read more: IRS lost two years of Lois Lerner's email in Tea Party Probe, blames computer crash - UPI.com

It's certainly possible for this to be true, but it points toward some mismanagement or negligence on the part of the IT crew.
Generally accepted practices prevent just this sort of thing from happening.
I wonder what there data retention policies are.

If this actually occurred, it was no accident nor mismanagement or negligence.
 
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