Page 36 of 49 FirstFirst ... 26343536373846 ... LastLast
Results 351 to 360 of 484

Thread: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

  1. #351
    Global Moderator
    Moderator

    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    36,872

    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    I can't believe anybody would think that ordinary folks are so credulous that we'll buy this.

    Where is Abby Schiuto when you need her?

  2. #352
    Guru

    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Columbus, OH
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 07:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    4,478

    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Since when aren't emails stored on hard drives? In any case, the IRS, who demands that we keep records for a minimum of seven years, and can even require proof long before THAT, has an obligation to keep every single email. That, in my opinion, is a piss-poor excuse. Six thousand emails?? That's merely 28 emails a day for a year. I don't even believe it.
    The IRS does not have a legal obligation to retain every single e-mail regardless of content for any length of time let alone seven years. It is only required to retain e-mails with a certain content for x length of time. If that is the bone you wish to pick then advocate for a change in the law.

  3. #353
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 03:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,272

    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    The IRS does not have a legal obligation to retain every single e-mail regardless of content for any length of time let alone seven years. It is only required to retain e-mails with a certain content for x length of time. If that is the bone you wish to pick then advocate for a change in the law.
    I think you need to check the archiving law on that.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  4. #354
    Jedi Master
    Captain America's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:48 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    18,647

    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    I just wonder how the IRS would act if I was being audited and I told them my computer crashed with all my financial records.

    Think they would have any mercy and just take me at my word?

    I would be in a world of hurt.

    It's GREAT to be me. --- "45% liberal/55% conservative"
    Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggy" until you can find a gun.

  5. #355
    Sage


    MaggieD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Chicago Area
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    43,242
    Blog Entries
    43

    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    The IRS does not have a legal obligation to retain every single e-mail regardless of content for any length of time let alone seven years. It is only required to retain e-mails with a certain content for x length of time. If that is the bone you wish to pick then advocate for a change in the law.
    And where are you getting your information, Napoleon?

    “The [Federal Records Act] requires agencies to make and preserve records of agency decisions, policies, and essential transactions, and to take steps to safeguard against the loss of agency records,” said House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa, who subpoenaed IRS Commissioner John Koskinen Monday.

    The IRS’s own definition of the Federal Records Act makes clear that emails must be saved and documented, according to an instructional page for employees on the IRS website.

    “The Federal Records Act applies to email records just as it does to records you create using other media,” according to the IRS. “Emails are records when they are: Created or received in the transaction of agency business; Appropriate for preservation as evidence of the government’s function and activities; or Valuable because of the information they contain.”

    Read more: IRS required by law to print out emails for record-keeping | The Daily Caller

  6. #356
    Guru

    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Columbus, OH
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 07:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    4,478

    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    And where are you getting your information, Napoleon?
    What evidence do you have that any of the e-mails lost meet that requirement? Thats right, NONE. For all you know they could have been itemizing Lois Lerner's recipe for chicken soup.

  7. #357
    Sage
    pbrauer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Oregon
    Last Seen
    11-27-15 @ 03:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    25,394

    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post


    Trey Gowdy tears Koskinen a new asshole.
    Wrong, Trey Gowdy is a grandstanding asshole. He doesn't want answers, he wants to show off.


  8. #358
    long standing member
    justabubba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 10:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    36,124

    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Wrong, Trey Gowdy is a grandstanding asshole. He doesn't want answers, he wants to show off.
    like issa, gowdy came up empty
    yes, they are both frustrated, and they have yet to generate any information which is detrimental to the irs or the white house regarding the emails ... or the purported targeting of teabagging organizations
    dumbasses
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

  9. #359
    Guru

    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Columbus, OH
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 07:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    4,478

    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Trey Gowdy tears Koskinen a new asshole.
    Maybe, but Gowdy needs to go back and hit the law books. He'd have to know what the content of the e-mails were and establish that it was material to the case before even thinking about claiming spoliation of evidence. Even if he managed to do that, it still isn't spoliation because they were lost prior to the investigation.

  10. #360
    Sage
    cpwill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    USofA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:57 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    57,073

    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    What evidence do you have that any of the e-mails lost meet that requirement? Thats right, NONE. For all you know they could have been itemizing Lois Lerner's recipe for chicken soup.
    So long as they are on a government email exchang, they are still required to be archived. I have worked on government systems for about a decade now, and that is the rule regardless of whether or not the email was intended as a personal message. Chicken soup is still legally required to be stored.


    That is why, for example, the White House staff started creating extra gmail accounts to handle official business that they did not want exposed on.

Page 36 of 49 FirstFirst ... 26343536373846 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •