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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    My issue isn't that Conservative groups weren't unfairly targeted, because I believe they were. My issue is the accusation of a cover up, which the evidence does not support.
    you appear to be in a rush to stamp out any coverup prior to all the evidence being presented.

    I just presented the letter dated 10 days prior to the email server crash, why did ABC leave this one out of the timeline?

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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Personally I think the stonewalling, the missing emails, Lerner taking the fifth twice, etc. is to avoid the truth coming out until the 2014 elections because the investigation so far through documents obtained by Judicial Watch by way of court order suggests some senior Democrat senators of possible wrongdoing.

    Here's a reported timeline of events involving Lerner

    IRS Fired Email-Archiving Firm After Lerner Crash | The Daily Caller
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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Not true....

    June 13, 2011: Lois Lerner, the IRS official at the center of the investigation, reports her computer's hard drive has crashed, according to an email from another member of the Exempt Organizations Division, which Lerner led.

    May 3, 2012: Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich., chairman of House Ways and Means Committee, sends letter to IRS commissioner requesting all applications seeking tax-exempt status in 2010 and 2011, including all files, correspondence and internal IRS records related to the applications.
    It is absolutely true. I was watching a show just last night that was talking about it.(I believe it was The Kelly File) I'll post the video if I can find it.

    The bottom line is that Learner DEFINITELY knew that people were looking into this before her "servers crashed".

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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

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    It is absolutely true. I was watching a show just last night that was talking about it.(I believe it was The Kelly File) I'll post the video if I can find it.

    The bottom line is that Learner DEFINITELY knew that people were looking into this before her "servers crashed".
    OK, I have an open mind. Post it, and let me look at it.
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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    OK, I have an open mind. Post it, and let me look at it.
    well, the jury is definitely still out on that one. I already posted proof that the IRS learned of this investigation 10 days earlier.

    why did ABC exclude facts from their timeline? Why are you providing cover for what appears to be a potential coverup?

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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    OK, I have an open mind. Post it, and let me look at it.
    Actually, the gist of it was already posted in post 332. Here it is.

    IRS Fired Email-Archiving Firm After Lerner Crash | The Daily Caller

    Lois Lerner’s computer allegedly crashed in June 2011, just ten days after House Ways and Means Committee chairman Rep. Dave Camp first wrote a letter asking if the IRS was engaging in targeting of nonprofit groups. Two months later, Sonasoft’s contract ended and the IRS gave its email-archiving contractor the boot.
    If this is true it sure makes this computer crash look a little too convenient for my tastes. I hope they investigate what files in addition to the e-mails were actually lost and if any measures were taken by Ms. Learner prior to this crash to relocate important files.

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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Actually, the gist of it was already posted in post 332. Here it is.

    IRS Fired Email-Archiving Firm After Lerner Crash | The Daily Caller





    If this is true it sure makes this computer crash look a little too convenient for my tastes. I hope they investigate what files in addition to the e-mails were actually lost and if any measures were taken by Ms. Learner prior to this crash to relocate important files.
    The time line I posted has the following:

    May 3, 2012: Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich., chairman of House Ways and Means Committee, sends letter to IRS commissioner requesting all applications seeking tax-exempt status in 2010 and 2011, including all files, correspondence and internal IRS records related to the applications.

    Seems the letter, according to the documentation supplied by the New York Times, was written by Camp almost a year after the crash, and not 10 days before.
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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The time line I posted has the following:

    May 3, 2012: Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich., chairman of House Ways and Means Committee, sends letter to IRS commissioner requesting all applications seeking tax-exempt status in 2010 and 2011, including all files, correspondence and internal IRS records related to the applications.

    Seems the letter, according to the documentation supplied by the New York Times, was written by Camp almost a year after the crash, and not 10 days before.
    10 days before the crash a letter was sent asking for all written communications - which include email - between the IRS and the Treasury Department.

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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The time line I posted has the following:

    May 3, 2012: Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich., chairman of House Ways and Means Committee, sends letter to IRS commissioner requesting all applications seeking tax-exempt status in 2010 and 2011, including all files, correspondence and internal IRS records related to the applications.

    Seems the letter, according to the documentation supplied by the New York Times, was written by Camp almost a year after the crash, and not 10 days before.
    Camp Demands IRS Answer Questions About Gift Tax Investigation | House Committee on Ways & Means
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    Washington, DC - Today, Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp (R-MI) released a public letter he sent to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) demanding information about its recent investigation into certain donations to non-profit organizations and the agency’s apparent drive to impose gift taxes on these monies. Camp questioned the process leading up to this action and level of involvement by the Obama Administration.

    Releasing the letter Camp stated, “Every aspect of this tax investigation, from the timing to the sudden reversal of nearly thirty years of IRS practice, strongly suggests that the IRS is targeting constitutionally-protected political speech. The IRS must explain its actions or risk creating a chilling effect that threatens not only political advocacy groups, but all tax-exempt organizations that depend on contributions from individual donors.”

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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The time line I posted has the following:

    May 3, 2012: Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich., chairman of House Ways and Means Committee, sends letter to IRS commissioner requesting all applications seeking tax-exempt status in 2010 and 2011, including all files, correspondence and internal IRS records related to the applications.

    Seems the letter, according to the documentation supplied by the New York Times, was written by Camp almost a year after the crash, and not 10 days before.
    It appears that the NYT is reporting on a different letter. Camp may have sent several but the one I am referring to was definitely sent 10 days prior to the crash. This has now been sourced several times in this thread.

    The fact that he sent a letter 10 days prior has been confirmed.

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