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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Just showing that this is indeed not the 1st time emails "disappear" into thin air, and that government corruption was fine and dandy in 2007.
    So you admit this administration is corrupt.
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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Those damn "two rogue agents" in Cincinnati.

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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
    Those damn "two rogue agents" in Cincinnati.
    Well, its just a smidgeon...thats all.

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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you admit this administration is corrupt.
    I'd say corruption is rampant in government. Period. Of course I'm probably jaded as ****, but nonetheless, corruption exists in every branch and in both parties.
    “No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it,” Trump said... “‘Is everyone OK’? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    In other words it's still the same team sport mentality that enables the perpetrators and pisses on the masses?
    I dunno. Did it anger you that the not only 22 million emails went missing, but they didn't use official government accounts? Rah rah rah...
    “No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it,” Trump said... “‘Is everyone OK’? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I'd say corruption is rampant in government. Period. Of course I'm probably jaded as ****, but nonetheless, corruption exists in every branch and in both parties.
    Good answer
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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I dunno. Did it anger you that the not only 22 million emails went missing, but they didn't use official government accounts? Rah rah rah...
    Pretty lame.

    The only point I made was that you are excusing this administration because a prior administration did something that may or may not be similar. It's blind hackery at it's finest and that's on you, not me.

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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Pretty lame.

    The only point I made was that you are excusing this administration because a prior administration did something that may or may not be similar. It's blind hackery at it's finest and that's on you, not me.
    No, Jack. Blind hackery explains those who think that this instance of lost emails is a first, and only owned by those darn lefties, especially Obama.
    “No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it,” Trump said... “‘Is everyone OK’? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    No, Jack. Blind hackery explains those who think that this instance of lost emails is a first, and only owned by those darn lefties, especially Obama.
    No one who is objective made the claim that it was "a first". That it may have or may not have been a first was a point brought up by those, like yourself, who are desperately trying to run cover for this administration.

    Again...

    Yup. The Bush Administrations certainly used this excuse, too, re. the dismissal of the 8 US Attorneys.
    Your words, you own it.

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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I still think that we'd be well served to get a report from a tech involved rather than the journalist's impression of a third-hand report (at least third hand).

    If you think that the regular "telephone game" is bad try adding a journalist and an editor into the line.

    Because, honestly the report doesn't pass the smell test.

    I suspect that our info is faulty.
    Here's how the IRS said it happened.
    Prior to the eruption of the IRS controversy last spring, the IRS had a policy of backing up the data on its email server (which runs Microsoft Outlook) every day. It kept a backup of the records for six months on digital tape, according to a letter sent from the IRS to Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah). After six months, the IRS would reuse those tapes for newer backups. So when Congressional committees began requesting emails from the agency, its records only went back to late 2012.
    Here’s how the IRS lost emails from key witness Lois Lerner - The Washington Post

    Furthermore, it also stated official copies of e-mails were required to be kept locally on people's machines. However, back in 2011, Lerner's hard drive crashed. Lerner requested at the time for the information on it to be recovered, but it could not.


    So the question becomes, "Is this legitimately possible?". The answer is that it IS legitimately possible, but ridiculous all the same. Let's say, for argument's sake, they legitimately do not have the e-mail records because they re-used the tape backups and her machine really did crash. It seems incredibly asinine to me for an agency like the IRS to not keep any e-mail records longer than 6 months. As a government agency, records should be kept for several years, at least 3-5 years. Where I work we don't actually archive our e-mail, but we do that intentionally (long story). But for the IRS to not have any e-mail backups longer than 6 months should be against the law itself (I don't know if it is, but it should be).

    Obviously, there will be people who think it's a cover-up no matter what. There will be others who believe it's a legitimate case of lost e-mails. But to answer your question, yes, it is legitimately possible, but it doesn't make it any less bad. It just focuses the bad elsewhere.

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