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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I don't believe they are lost. They should be able to dig them back up and I hope they do. But as to persons alive who believe emails get lost... I dunno. Ask the entire faction of conservative GOP backers when the White House mysteriously lost 5 million emails with nary a curious quip from any of them.

    White House: Millions of e-mails may be missing - CNN.com

    Not to mention all those emails were illegal correspondence that broke the law under the Presidential Records Act. But I digress. Onward with the obvious partisan outrage.
    Look, I understand that this is politics and tit-for-tat is part of the game, but you failed to mention a few things about that 2007 story that have come to light since then:

    1. In December 2009, it was announced that the e-mails were found.
    2. They were actually recovered while Bush was still in office, but nobody ran the story.
    3. Their loss stemmed from a failure to install a properly working electronic record keeping system.
    4. That system apparently mislabeled the emails, which is why they were "lost".
    5. The Administration was aware of the problem in 2003, before they were ever requested by anyone and more than 2 years before it was made public.
    6. In October 2003, the Administration called technicians from Microsoft to help them find the electronic messages.

    Millions of missing Bush admin. e-mails found - politics | NBC News

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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Actually, this proves the IRS scandal is for real because if it wasn't, then losing those emails wouldn't be either.

    Right, I agree. But the stupidity of the excuse is a scandal unto itself, as far as I am concerned, and that is my point. I am satisfied that they are hiding something, solely as a consequence of this lame turn of events.
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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Well thank God this isn't over a second rate burglary. Otherwise there might be real trouble.
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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I don't believe they are lost. They should be able to dig them back up and I hope they do. But as to persons alive who believe emails get lost... I dunno. Ask the entire faction of conservative GOP backers when the White House mysteriously lost 5 million emails with nary a curious quip from any of them.

    White House: Millions of e-mails may be missing - CNN.com

    Not to mention all those emails were illegal correspondence that broke the law under the Presidential Records Act. But I digress. Onward with the obvious partisan outrage.
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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    And let's remember, this is not Lois Lerner's computer, or the White House's computer, or their email, or their back ups. All this is the property of the people of the United States. Not their personal stuff, it is our stuff that they are screwing with. As they have been all along.
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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    3. Their loss stemmed from a failure to install a properly working electronic record keeping system.
    4. That system apparently mislabeled the emails, which is why they were "lost".
    6. In October 2003, the Administration called technicians from Microsoft to help them find the electronic messages.
    I am shocked that the guys working the WH weren't able to perform tasks which are standard practices. There're roughly eleventy kajillion Exchange systems up and running with their back ups in place.
    How does that happen? There're plenty of people in the world who can perform those tasks.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    I am shocked that the guys working the WH weren't able to perform tasks which are standard practices. There're roughly eleventy kajillion Exchange systems up and running with their back ups in place.
    How does that happen? There're plenty of people in the world who can perform those tasks.
    Yes, the internet age was what, 60 or 70 years old when Bush took office in 2001?

    At least they knew there was a problem, called experts in, and took care of it so it didn't happen again before they "found out about it from media reports" as the "not a smidgen of corruption" Obama Administration so often does.

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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Huh ?

    No, this IS the first administration that got caught using the IRS to target American Citizens solely on the basis of their political views.

    This is the first administration to blatantly violate the Constitutional rights of free Americans by using Federal agencies to harrass American Citizens based on their opposition to a President.

    This IS the First American administration to resort to banana republic style tactics to win a election.

    So there is no comparison between what happened under Bush and whats happening now.

    After first ADMITTING that the IRS targeted Conservative Americans for their ideology, Lois Lerner then LIED and blamed it all on nameless, faceless Cincinnati rogues.

    Obama pledged to get to the bottom of it and to make those who were involved accountable.

    Then, 24 Consecutive 5th amendment pleas from the Women who first admitted the targeting as people like YOU repeatedly mischaracterized the House oversight committees investigations as a " Witch hunt ".

    And Obama's reclassification of the IRS scandal as " made up".

    And finally, deleted E-mails.

    Now, did that happen under Bush ? No, not even close.

    No one who's hasn't sold out every semblance of integrity believes for a second that these E-mails were " accidentally " deleted.

    So again, Obama has been building a legacy of lies, corruption, incompetence, lawlessnes and just unprecedented dishonesty.

    Plus a economy thats after 6 years contracting as millions of Americans try to deal with chronic joblessness as poverty rates clim to 1 in 5 Americans.

    Add Obama's foreign policy failures, Benghazzi, trading 5 top level terrorist for a deserter, Fast and Furious, ObamaCare's impact on middle class America, his flooding of border States with illegals from Central and South America and Mexico so they can compete with jobless Americans for what little jobs are available and you have the worst President in our Nation's history.

    And he's taking the Democrat party with him.
    yes, it happened during the dicknbush regime
    i shared the link with you
    that white house failed to provide the emails which were sought during an investigation
    maybe you can show us some posts from that period, where you slammed the president for his failure to provide emails essential to the investigation. doing so would eliminate the possibility of your being found to act hypocritically on this issue
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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    yes, it happened during the dicknbush regime
    i shared the link with you
    that white house failed to provide the emails which were sought during an investigation
    maybe you can show us some posts from that period, where you slammed the president for his failure to provide emails essential to the investigation. doing so would eliminate the possibility of your being found to act hypocritically on this issue
    1. In December 2009, it was announced that the e-mails were found.
    2. They were actually recovered while Bush was still in office, but nobody ran the story.
    3. Their loss stemmed from a failure to install a properly working electronic record keeping system.
    4. That system apparently mislabeled the emails, which is why they were "lost".
    5. The Administration was aware of the problem in 2003, before they were ever requested by anyone and more than 2 years before it was made public.
    6. In October 2003, the Administration called technicians from Microsoft to help them find the electronic messages.

    Millions of missing Bush admin. e-mails found - politics | NBC News

    Shall I post those debate tactics again?

    Oh, and you seem to have some obscession with genitalia so you might want to consider talking to someone about that.

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    Re: IRS: So… Our Computer Crashed And Erased All Of Lois Lerner’s Emails

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    yes, it happened during the dicknbush regime
    i shared the link with you
    that white house failed to provide the emails which were sought during an investigation
    maybe you can show us some posts from that period, where you slammed the president for his failure to provide emails essential to the investigation. doing so would eliminate the possibility of your being found to act hypocritically on this issue
    So as long as you can point to 'Bush did it too' then that makes it all ok.

    I wouldn't accept that from a 5 year old, much less a supposedly grown man.
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