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    Re: Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    The best thing we can do for the homeless is to open up the asylums again and get them help

    The spikes should be illegal IMHO. There are more humane solutions that yield the same results. If there a legitimate industrial application then permits can be applied for
    You see the problem with your logic here is that you hold to the belief that these spikes exist to screw with the dignity of homeless people. That is not the reason they were created, but it is one benefit or side effect of their use. This invention is extremely effective in performing the task they were created to fulfill. Keeping areas clear from traffic, human or otherwise. In non human cases, such as aforementioned loading docks, any vehicles that come across them are jarred, noticeably signaling the vehicle or hand truck operator that they are near the edge of the platform or in a restricted zone. Likewise these spikes keep people from milling about in places they should not be and so businesses have made use of them all over the globe for that reason too. If Tesco wants to give into pressure from these activist with your mind set they are certainly free to do so. I think it was a stupid move on their part and if the activist that was threatening to camp out 24/7 in that space tried to do so? Let the bobbies take said activist to a comfortable cot in a warm building with bars.

    The whole idea that this sham or facade to accomplish the same goal the spikes do, "helps" homeless people is not a very persuasive argument. How does the company having to retool their exits, but still basically keep the homeless from bivouacking there, "help" the homeless? And how would getting rid of or causing less use of these spikes not then at some point make some people unemployed? And then possibly becoming homeless themselves, this helps the homeless how?

    Your location says the DEEP SOUTH. Yet you are speaking about opening the asylums again and applying for permits for perfectly legal use of perfectly legal products in industrial environments. Which country is it you are in the deep south of?

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    Re: Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    You see the problem with your logic here is that you hold to the belief that these spikes exist to screw with the dignity of homeless people. That is not the reason they were created, but it is one benefit or side effect of their use. This invention is extremely effective in performing the task they were created to fulfill. Keeping areas clear from traffic, human or otherwise. In non human cases, such as aforementioned loading docks, any vehicles that come across them are jarred, noticeably signaling the vehicle or hand truck operator that they are near the edge of the platform or in a restricted zone. Likewise these spikes keep people from milling about in places they should not be and so businesses have made use of them all over the globe for that reason too. If Tesco wants to give into pressure from these activist with your mind set they are certainly free to do so. I think it was a stupid move on their part and if the activist that was threatening to camp out 24/7 in that space tried to do so? Let the bobbies take said activist to a comfortable cot in a warm building with bars.

    The whole idea that this sham or facade to accomplish the same goal the spikes do, "helps" homeless people is not a very persuasive argument. How does the company having to retool their exits, but still basically keep the homeless from bivouacking there, "help" the homeless? And how would getting rid of or causing less use of these spikes not then at some point make some people unemployed? And then possibly becoming homeless themselves, this helps the homeless how?

    Your location says the DEEP SOUTH. Yet you are speaking about opening the asylums again and applying for permits for perfectly legal use of perfectly legal products in industrial environments. Which country is it you are in the deep south of?
    I don't believe their purpose is to screw with people's dignity, i believe that is a side effect. Try again.

    Also, I pointed out how it helps the homeless, it keeps from dehumanizing them, which will have the effect of more compassion (or at least help slow or prevent the erosion of our compassion), which is helpful.

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    Re: Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    I don't believe their purpose is to screw with people's dignity, i believe that is a side effect. Try again.
    I think you got that backwards there mate. You blithely ignored the entirety of my post in #27 yet quoted it. And now you have done it again. So you think I should "try" what again? Getting you to read and engage honestly to the post of mine you are bothering to quote as you ignore them and dodge my points?

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    Re: Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    I think you got that backwards there mate. You blithely ignored the entirety of my post in #27 yet quoted it. And now you have done it again. So you think I should "try" what again? Getting you to read and engage honestly?
    You repeated arguments you made earlier, I already discussed those topics and I hate wasting my effort.

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    Re: Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Well, only one thing to do now. 2-inch anti-homeless spikes!
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    Re: Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    You repeated arguments you made earlier, I already discussed those topics and I hate wasting my effort.
    Tell me, which thread is it that you think you read where I repeated the same argument to you? Because it is not in this thread, what it looks pretty obviously like is happening is that you are just prevaricating. Delving into fictional accounts of events that have not occurred. You do know this is not really a very big or long thread so far right? Four pages and only 36 posts right? So it is not as if there is a large amount of posts to comb through to find these "repeated" arguments you allude to. Right? I mean, you get that at least? Right?

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    Re: Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
    Well, only one thing to do now. 2-inch anti-homeless spikes!
    Make them about 48 inches and then I don't see where there's a problem.

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    Re: Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Quote Originally Posted by Filthy McNasty View Post
    Tell me, which thread is it that you think you read where I repeated the same argument to you? Because it is not in this thread, what it looks pretty obviously like happening is that you are just prevaricating. Delving into fictional accounts of events that have not occurred. You do know this is not really a very big or long thread so far right? So it is not as if there is a large amount of posts to comb through to find these "repeated" arguments you allude to. Right? I mean, you get that at least? Right?
    So you decided you can't argue the main topic then? This has nothing to do with spikes or alternatives to spikes or the societal implications of those spikes.

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    Re: Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    So you decided you can't argue the main topic then?
    You just claimed I had done so, twice. I asked a simple question? Where? And if in one post you are going to claim I've addressed the topic twice, but in the next post you are going to claim I've not addressed it at all? Maybe it is time to open back up the asylums!

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    Re: Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Make them about 48 inches and then I don't see where there's a problem.
    That's a terrible idea! It'd take forever to clean the blood off...
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