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    Re: Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Metro s

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    I fully agree that they are within their rights to discourage loitering by causing discomfort to the loiterers. However, I disagree with this method and the message being that it's ok to potentially cause harm to people with dangerous landscaping features. That thing is a serious tripping and injury hazard. Also it sends a message that a fellow human can be subject to lesser animal style herding techniques, which I have a problem with as well
    Did Tesco install these on public property or am I missing something?

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    Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Did Tesco install these on public property or am I missing something?
    Private property, but it's an irrelevant detail in my opinion. How we treat humanity can often be more important than property concerns from a moral perspective. While the homeless are often the subject of personal problems and can present a danger to others, there is no reason to dehumanize them further.

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    Re: Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Private property, but it's an irrelevant detail in my opinion. How we treat humanity can often be more important than property concerns from a moral perspective.
    What do you mean "How we treat"?

    Do you think the store has some kind of responsibility to provide a sleeping place for homeless people in front of their stores?

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    Re: Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Private property, but it's an irrelevant detail in my opinion. How we treat humanity can often be more important than property concerns from a moral perspective. While the homeless are often the subject of personal problems and can present a danger to others, there is no reason to dehumanize them further.
    Do you have a bed and bath in your front yard to better treat humanity?

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    Re: Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    What do you mean "How we treat"?

    Do you think the store has some kind of responsibility to provide a sleeping place for homeless people in front of their stores?
    You obviously have not read my discussion up to this point as I already answered your question

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    Re: Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    You obviously have not read my discussion up to this point as I already answered your question
    Well answer it again please, but more directly this time.

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    Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Do you have a bed and bath in your front yard to better treat humanity?
    There's a difference between inviting someone and creating hostile landscape. An equivelent question would be whether I set up bear traps

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    Re: Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Well answer it again please, but more directly this time.
    No the store does not and there is nothing wrong with discouraging loitering either. The how is important.

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    Re: Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    There's a difference between inviting something and creating hostile landscape. A not equivelent question would be whether I set up bear traps
    If they put a cactus there, would that be considered a hostile landscape as well?

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    Re: Tesco removes one-inch 'anti-homeless' spikes from outside central London Met...

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    If they put a cactus there, would that be considered a hostile landscape as well?
    A cactus has a function other than determent. So no

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