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Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance [W:246, 565, *656*]

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That's a useless observation and no reason for inaction now.

I didn't realize there were so many chicken hawks lately, are these the same people who were for the first invasion? or is this because people think Obama should make the same mistakes as Bush?
 
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This is what happens when you undermine the efforts of our armed forces for political gains.

Who was the president who actually invaded Iraq?
 
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Who was the president who actually invaded Iraq?

The one with a spine who didn't roll out a red carpet for al Quaida throughout the Middle East.
 
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I don't recall Bush saying that we should leave too soon.

He never imagined staying for decades on end. A little before the war he said this

Any military presence, should it be necessary, will be temporary and intended to promote security and elimination of weapons of mass destruction; the delivery of humanitarian aid; and the conditions for the reconstruction of Iraq

George W. Bush - Wikiquote

As far as the Arab Spring, that was part of his overall vision too:

The establishment of a free Iraq at the heart of the Middle East will be a watershed event in the global democratic revolution

Address to the National Endowment for Democracy (November 6, 2003)
 
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Yes, 4,000 are dead. Will you feel better spending 4,000 more lives only to see the same results again in another decade? You side is responsible for this by invading in the first place. When dies your sued learn from your mistake?

Here, let me help you with that.

No doubt you'll believe the central point about the Democrats and their leadership (and how they promoted the invasion), because the rest of the article takes a dump all over Bush.

Democrats Share the Blame for Tragedy of Iraq War
 
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Who was the president who actually invaded Iraq?

unlike Clinton who carpet bombed innocent people to take your eyes off the blue dress
 
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He never imagined staying for decades on end. A little before the war he said this



George W. Bush - Wikiquote

As far as the Arab Spring, that was part of his overall vision too:

Address to the National Endowment for Democracy (November 6, 2003)

The problem is Iraq is a Persian descendent and not Arab. The Arab spring as identified occurred must later than 2003, and started in Egypt and Tunisia.
 
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You must hate the Clintons..

Hate? no. I just have little use for one. I feel the same way about bushes too. I do like trees though.
 
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I didn't realize there were so many chicken hawks lately, are these the same people who were for the first invasion? or is this because people think Obama should make the same mistakes as Bush?

why do you mock Bill Clinton..

come to NYC and say that.. see how it goes over at the WTC memorial
 
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Reports: Iraqi Government Begging for US Airstrikes Against Advancing Terrorist Forces - Guy Benson

It is very unlikely Obama will do anything because it would then appear he misjudged the entire situation. His vanity comes first.

I would say America misjudged the entire situation 10-20 years ago and we have been stumbling itself with blunder after blunder ever since.

The last President that handled Iraq effectively as Bush... as in HW. The President that most over-reacted and screwed the issue up the most was his son. We never had any business in Iraq. Once we were dumb enough to actually go into Iraq, we should have done the next best thing an get out.

It recall the "mission accomplished" banner flew in May 2003. We should have been home 30 days later.
 
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The problem is Iraq is a Persian descendent and not Arab. The Arab spring as identified occurred must later than 2003, and started in Egypt and Tunisia.

To liberals its all the same..
 
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The one with a spine who didn't roll out a red carpet for al Quaida throughout the Middle East.

And his name was...
 
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Bush in his own inarticulate way tried to tell everyone the cause for the Wars and terrorism, "America is addicted to oil." At the time, I thought he was having a "Duh" moment but it sure makes sense now.
 
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why do you mock Bill Clinton..

come to NYC and say that.. see how it goes over at the WTC memorial
:lamo
 
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unlike Clinton who carpet bombed innocent people to take your eyes off the blue dress

Wrong! Clinton was not the president who invaded Iraq. Please go stand in the corner.
 
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I would say America misjudged the entire situation 10-20 years ago and we have been stumbling over selves since with blunder after blunder. The last President that handled Iraq effectively as Bush... as in HW. The President that most over-reacted and screwed the issue up the most was his son. We never had any business in Iraq. Once we were dumb enough to actually go into Iraq, we should have done the next best thing an get out.

It recall the "mission accomplished" banner flew in May 2003. We should have been home 30 days later.


Obama has declared the war on terror over and that AQ "is on the run"....Egypt and Syria are doing great..

but go back to your out of context liberal bashing of GWB
 
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Wrong! Clinton was not the president who invaded Iraq. Please go stand in the corner.

He carpet bombed.. but I guess you hate the people of Iraq
 
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which is smarter then what Obama did by allowing our equipment to be catpured and now used against innocence

I hate to suggest it, but do we really know whose side BHO is on now? It appears that he is making it easy for the insurgents to get the equipment they need to win this takeover of the Iraqi government. We knew long ago when the pull-out of our troops would take place, so why did we leave millions of dollars in equipment behind in the first place? Too many people have died - for what? Saddam may have been a ruthless monster, but you didn't see what's happening now while he was in power!

Greetings, Travis007. :2wave:
 
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Wrong! Clinton was not the president who invaded Iraq. Please go stand in the corner.

Clinton allowed for the WTC to be destroyed..
 
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I hate to suggest it, but do we really know whose side BHO is on now? It appears that he is making it easy for the insurgents to get the equipment they need to win this takeover of the Iraqi government. We knew long ago when the pull-out of our troops would take place, so why did we leave millions of dollars in equipment behind in the first place? Too many people have died - for what? Saddam may have been a ruthless monster, but you didn't see what's happening now while he was in power!

Greetings, Travis007. :2wave:

Greetings Polgara : )

Obama is on the enemy of the USA's side.... like every other thing he has done..

Obama made sure that we lost in Iraq after we had won that war..
 
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Who cares about Iraq, we should be impeaching Obama! :lamo that's more important!
 
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I hate to suggest it, but do we really know whose side BHO is on now? It appears that he is making it easy for the insurgents to get the equipment they need to win this takeover of the Iraqi government. We knew long ago when the pull-out of our troops would take place, so why did we leave millions of dollars in equipment behind in the first place? Too many people have died - for what? Saddam may have been a ruthless monster, but you didn't see what's happening now while he was in power!

Greetings, Travis007. :2wave:

Yes. Yes we do. He's on his side. Unfortunately, his side basically includes, ah, him.
 
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I think Joe Biden, then a senator from Delaware had the right idea. But his suggestion was scorn, pillared and he was laughed at. Right after the capture of Saddam and before our nation building began Senator Joe suggested dividing up Iraq into 3 parts. The Kurds could have their own little country, the same for the Shia and the Sunni. Once done, bring the boys home.

Each could have formed the type of government they wanted and the laws to live under. Instead we forced democracy upon them and tried to make 3 different sects of people who never did get along with each other to get along with each other in the name of democracy.




I remember the discussion and I thought at the time that splitting Iraq up into 3 pieces was the best solution.

One of the reasons why that didn't happen was that Turkey didn't want a Kurdistan next door.

I'm sure that Turkey is still opposed to the idea of a Kurdish nation.

But that doesn't mean that it won't happen.


U.S. aircraft could strike targets in Iraq tomorrow, but I don't know if that's a good idea if the Iraqi government doesn't change its way of doing business and reach out to the Sunnis in Iraq.
 
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