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Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance [W:246, 565, *656*]

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Lincoln suspended habeus corpus rights. Therefore, all Republicans to this day have no respect for them. You can run from your history or accept it.

I'm quite prepared to accept that, and why not? Now will you accept the fact that the Democrats were the party of racists since prior to the Civil War? I really don't see where their bigotry has ceased in any meaningful way.
 
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Atwater was one political consultant among many. He was also a decent guitarist. And GOP inroads in the South predated him by 20 years. Btw, I have my problems with the Repubs too, but your form of gasbaggery is just too much fun to puncture.:lamo

Sure, sure, and Rushbo just is one of many right wing hate talkers *shaking head*


Like I said, CONservatives are NEVER on the correct side of history!
 
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I'm quite prepared to accept that, and why not? Now will you accept the fact that the Democrats were the party of racists since prior to the Civil War? I really don't see where their bigotry has ceased in any meaningful way.

Yeah, THAT'S why 90% of blacks vote Dems, how many GOP party leaders showed up at the anniversary to MLK's speech last year? lol
 
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Like I said, CONservatives are NEVER on the correct side of history!

Didn't Reagan win the Cold War? or do you have a liberal slogan that explains THAT away?
 
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Any educated word on ISIS' troop numbers, armament, or organization? Are the official estimates off?

I mean... They're not a professional army, and they're don't have the backing of a nation state behind them (as far as I'm aware, anyway). It seems odd that they'd be able to make this kind of head way so quickly, especially against a relatively well-supplied national army with heavily armored units and air power at its disposal.

Are the Iraqis simply not putting up a fight? Is the local population rising up to support the invaders?

Something about this just doesn't seem right. They've basically taken half the damn country.

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Sure, sure, and Rushbo just is one of many right wing hate talkers *shaking head*


Like I said, CONservatives are NEVER on the correct side of history!

Limbaugh is Limbaugh. Not a spokesman for any party.:peace
 
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Tell that to the 4,000+ men and women who died to make Iran the regional power house.

Iraq was the mess from the first day. You just have exceptionally poor partisan memory. Remember the rampant looting? Tell me how that wasn't a mess.

Your MO is to blame the Democrats for everything and pretend that Republican time was rainbows and butterflies.

That mess was cleaned up. Now, we have a bigger, more deadly mess. Let's try and deal with the present and not some irrelevant fact that is 11 years old.
 
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Seems the Kurds either might be taking advantage of the situation or trying to clean up Iraq's mess
"Iraqi Kurdish forces took control of the northern oil city of Kirkuk earlier Thursday, after government troops abandoned their posts in the face of a triumphant Sunni Islamist rebel march towards Baghdad that threatens Iraq's future as a unified state."

Iraq beginning to unravel; U.S. mulling options - chicagotribune.com

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YPG and Peshmerga hand in hand against ISIS
 
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Any word on ISIS' troop numbers, armament, or organization?

I mean... They're not a professional army, and they're don't have the backing of a nation state behind them (as far as I'm aware, anyway). It seems odd that they'd be able to make this kind of head way so quickly, especially against a relatively well-supplied national army with heavily armored units and air power at its disposal.

Are the Iraqis simply not putting up a fight? Is the local population rising up to support the invaders?

Something about this just doesn't seem right. They've basically taken half the damn country.

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The Iraqi Army is disentigrating. It's not hard to see why ISIS is moving so fast, against almost non-existant resistance.

As far as armaments go, ISIS will be well equipped after they capture the Iraqi Army's equipment.
 
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The Iraqi Army is disentigrating. It's not hard to see why ISIS is moving so fast, against almost non-existant resistance.

As far as armaments go, ISIS will be well equipped after they capture the Iraqi Army's equipment.

Morale and leadership must be virtually non-existent for things to be going this catastrophically wrong.

I also have to imagine that the invaders are getting support from local Sunni groups. That's basically the only way these kinds of gains are feasible.

They simply wouldn't have the manpower otherwise.
 
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Minor in history

Hubert Humphrey was not considered a serious threat, and he and Wallace were appealing to opposite constituencies.

The American Experience | George Wallace: Settin' the Woods on Fire | People & Events | 1968 Campaign


To hippies who said he was a Nazi, he replied, “I was killing fascists when you punks were in diapers.” Another memorable quote: “They’re building a bridge over the Potomac for all the white liberals fleeing to Virginia.”

The Wallace campaign was comfortably ahead in Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana. Wallace’s aides insisted that the campaign focus on winning the Carolinas, Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee.

President George Wallace | Logical Meme

Al Sharpton Gets Civil Rights History Wrong - Katie Pavlich

Seems Wallace did quite well up north in the Democrat Primaries.

Democratic Party presidential primaries, 1976 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Democratic Party presidential primaries, 1972 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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That mess was cleaned up.

O'rly? Bombings were occurring on the day US forces left Iraq. Iraq never got fixed. The US never solved the secretarian divisions. We watched a pro-Iranian regime get elected into office. We never fully recovered the thousands of items looted from the museums US forces failed to guard during the invasion. Your memory is so ragingly out of control partisan that you ignore the sacrifices 4,000+ men and women made for basically nothing. If anyone is anti-American and anti-military, it is you right now for your white washing of the Iraq debacle.

Now, we have a bigger, more deadly mess. Let's try and deal with the present and not some irrelevant fact that is 11 years old.

The Iraqi government failed to control their country. They also refused to agree to exempt international assistance forces from the Iraqi Judicial system. That was a requirement for the SOFA. It is their mess and their mess alone. I know you are DYING to blame this on Obama, but only a raging out of control partisan hack would ignore the issue with the SOFA. Furthermore, you have to be exceptionally delusional to think we know you wouldn't immediately blame Obama for agreeing to the Iraqi demands for a SOFA.

Again, your MO is to blame the Democrats for everything and pretend that Republican time was rainbows and butterflies. You are one of the most obvious partisan hacks on the forum. See Ockam's post? He gets why the SOFA died. Do you see him blaming Obama? Not. At. All.
 
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Morale and leadership must be virtually non-existent for things to be going this catastrophically wrong.

I also have to imagine that the invaders are getting support from local Sunni groups. That's basically the only way these kinds of gains are feasible.

They simply wouldn't have the manpower otherwise.

They've liberated a lot of cash since their invasion, but I agree that they had serious financial support before they launched their offensive. There's no telling where from. Russia perhaps? The Chinese?
 
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Yeah, THAT'S why 90% of blacks vote Dems, how many GOP party leaders showed up at the anniversary to MLK's speech last year? lol

I agree that many Blacks vote for the Democrats and have never understood why. The same with Jews.
 
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They've liberated a lot of cash since their invasion, but I agree that they had serious financial support before they launched their offensive. There's no telling where from. Russia perhaps? The Chinese?

Who knows. I wouldn't put it past Putin, though it seems somewhat unlikely given ISIS' antagonistic relationship with Syria.
 
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Don't worry........Barack has got this.....as soon as he comes off the back nine
Or his nap as Boner charged.
John came back today accusing hard after his Cantor cries huh .
 
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They were, but what's really desperate is your attempt to put that on today's Democrats.

Especially when CRA loans made up a very small portion of NPLs and that the majority of NPLs were issued from non-CRA loans. There is no question that the CRA provided market incentive for non-CRA banks to get in on it, but no one forced the issuers of the vast majority of NPLs to issue those loans.
 
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O'rly? Bombings were occurring on the day US forces left Iraq. Iraq never got fixed. The US never solved the secretarian divisions. We watched a pro-Iranian regime get elected into office. We never fully recovered the thousands of items looted from the museums US forces failed to guard during the invasion. Your memory is so ragingly out of control partisan that you ignore the sacrifices 4,000+ men and women made for basically nothing. If anyone is anti-American and anti-military, it is you right now for your white washing of the Iraq debacle.



The Iraqi government failed to control their country. They also refused to agree to exempt international assistance forces from the Iraqi Judicial system. That was a requirement for the SOFA. It is their mess and their mess alone. I know you are DYING to blame this on Obama, but only a raging out of control partisan hack would ignore the issue with the SOFA. Furthermore, you have to be exceptionally delusional to think we know you wouldn't immediately blame Obama for agreeing to the Iraqi demands for a SOFA.

Again, your MO is to blame the Democrats for everything and pretend that Republican time was rainbows and butterflies. You are one of the most obvious partisan hacks on the forum. See Ockam's post? He gets why the SOFA died. Do you see him blaming Obama? Not. At. All.

Of course bombs were going off as we were leaving, because...we were leaving!

As I stated before, this is what happens when you give the bad guys a heads up that you're breaking camp.
 
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Limbaugh is Limbaugh. Not a spokesman for any party.:peace

You will NEVER be honest. Got it. Rushbo is one of the leaders of the GOP....
 
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Yes only Demorats have those pesky demographics that always vote for them.
Too bad they don't always vote, as in disaster years 1994 and 2010.
Neither party is doomed for different incompetent reasons.
I agree that many Blacks vote for the Democrats and have never understood why. The same with Jews.
Now for the thread topic, do you support GOP warhawks wanting another round of Iraq ?
 
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Of course bombs were going off as we were leaving, because...we were leaving!

You claimed the mess was cleaned up. That is obviously false. Rather than look at facts, you just assume because a Republican was in office that Iraq turned into the land of milk and honey despite on Inauguration day 2009, blast shields and security check points were all over Iraq. The change of Presidency did not matter. Iraq was not cleaned up. Nor was it ever. The pull out date had nothing to do with the lack of security. If your asinine claim was correct, we would have seen the bombings stop years before the pullout. You are, of course, wrong as you always are.

As I stated before, this is what happens when you give the bad guys a heads up that you're breaking camp.

It's amazing how much you hate the 4,000+ men and women who died in Iraq. You dishonor their memories with your terribad claims. Just more proof that extremist Republicans don't give a **** about the lives of our men and women in uniform.
 
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What does ANY of that mean? Oh right, Wallace got 12% of the votes, mainly in the Southern (CONservatives) states

Way to conflate CONservatives with GOP though, like your Sharpton link :(
 
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Who knows. I wouldn't put it past Putin, though it seems somewhat unlikely given ISIS' antagonistic relationship with Syria.

What better way for Russia's ol' buddy Iran to make a power grab? Iran is already sending Revolutionary Gaurd units into Iraq.
 
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Didn't Reagan win the Cold War? or do you have a liberal slogan that explains THAT away?

NO,

Did Reagan end the Cold War? Immediately after the Berlin Wall fell, a USA Today survey found that only 14% of respondents believed that. Historians mostly credit forty years of “Containment” by eight U.S. presidents. As Tony Judt’s Postwar concluded: “…Washington did not ‘bring down’ Communism – Communism imploded of its own accord.”

Vox Verax: The Whitewashing of Ronald Reagan
 
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