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Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance [W:246, 565, *656*]

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dad2three2001 said:
So you admit to being a nickle poster?
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I'm not your search engine. Get the **** back on topic. I am not the topic of this thread.
 
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dad2three2001 said:
I believe FACT based things. You, not so much. TRY to get off ideology and more into facts...
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That is a lie - you have IGNORED fact based things I've provided when they didn't agree with your ideology which is far left wingnut. And by the way, your statement asking for others to get off ideology and on to more facts.... PRICELESS IRONY. PRICELESS.
 
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Ockham said:
That is a lie - you have IGNORED fact based things I've provided when they didn't agree with your ideology which is far left wingnut. And by the way, your statement asking for others to get off ideology and on to more facts.... PRICELESS IRONY. PRICELESS.
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Got it, throw out a 'false premise, distortion or lie, THEN argue from there. The usual right wing garbage

What have I ignored FACT based? No tax cuts don't bring in more revenues
 
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Maenad said:
I don't get paid to keep you up on current events. If you have slept through the last 6 years, that's your problem, not mine.
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Good one!!
You sound like erstwhile presidential candidate Herman Cain....to wit...

"I don't know what Obama's policies are, but I would do the exact opposite"
 
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Maenad said:
I'm not your search engine. Get the **** back on topic. I am not the topic of this thread.
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Weird how YOU make posits, when asked to back up said posits, you want to ignore PROOF. Just weird
 
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Maenad said:
I don't get paid to keep you up on current events. If you have slept through the last 6 years, that's your problem, not mine.
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back up your claims with evidence.

you are the one saying that the reason for the crisis in iraq is because of obama's failed policies.

show us the specific policies
 
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dad2three2001 said:
What have I ignored FACT based?
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Nearly every post I respond to you. This one being no different. Let me reiterate my previous tip for you: Spewing out Media Matters talking points does not equate to debate. You're postings are 100% ideological and you only respond to facts when they align with your ideology. Facts which do not, your posts either ignore or continue to spew. I'm not responding to you now, but so the others in this thread have a background. I'll go back to ignoring your ideological vomit now. :2wave:
 
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Ockham said:
Nearly every post I respond to you. This one being no different. Let me reiterate my previous tip for you: Spewing out Media Matters talking points does not equate to debate. You're postings are 100% ideological and you only respond to facts when they align with your ideology. Facts which do not, your posts either ignore or continue to spew. I'm not responding to you now, but so the others in this thread have a background. I'll go back to ignoring your ideological vomit now. :2wave:
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Got it, YOU expect me to accept right wing talking points as facts based on opinions NOT history, logic or honesty and instead use ad homs on me. Got it
 
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bubbabgone said:
"I am very optimistic about -- about Iraq. I mean, You're going to see 90,000 American troops come marching home by the end of the summer. You're going to see a stable government in Iraq that is actually moving toward a representative government," - Joe Biden
(It has not been confirmed that Joe was shaking his head ... but there was a rattling sound heard)
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And with his son just getting a job with Ukraine's largest gas and oil company, we can now feel confident that all will soon be well there, too! Are we great or what? :mrgreen: Maybe part of the $43 billion dollars we are giving the Ukraine will help to pay his salary!
 
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AJiveMan said:
What would the USA do in Iraq, that it hasn't already done? Spend more tax dollars, get some more Americans killed, for what?

I can see the Malaki leg humpers are out here today.
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tell that to the hundreds being slaughterred in Iraq today.. and the disgrace Obama is to allow our soliders to perish for NOTHING but his politcal gain... sounds to me like your have your eye on Obamas leg..
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
back up your claims with evidence.

you are the one saying that the reason for the crisis in iraq is because of obama's failed policies.

show us the specific policies
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YES.. EXACTLY... thats the TRUTH.. if we kept forces in place as a deterent this would not be happening..
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
are you really that politically biased that you cannot grasp what is the practical reality.
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The only one interested in politcs and power at the cost of innocent lives is OBAMA...

its all about Obama...LIKE EVERYTHING...
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
back up your claims with evidence.

you are the one saying that the reason for the crisis in iraq is because of obama's failed policies.

show us the specific policies
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I believe it was Obama who ended it in Iraq and pulled our forces out. Don't think it was Bush. Yep. Sure it was Obama.
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
no. both administrations, both parties, the entire united states are shackled to the corpses of the afghanistan/iraq wars. 14 years of misguided, foolish, and pointless war.
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tell me about OIL FOR FOOD..
 
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Maenad said:
I believe it was Obama who ended it in Iraq. Don't think it was Bush. Yep. Sure it was Obama.
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the width raw order was a hand me down from the previous administration.
 
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dad2three2001 said:
I believe FACT based things. You, not so much. TRY to get off ideology and more into facts...
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so you believe Joe Biden... sounds to me like your a big fan of Al Frankens old radio show
 
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radioman said:
Such as?
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Not working out a deal with Malaki like Maliki wanted..

Obama only wanted to score politcal points to win elections for OBAMA,,,by anouncing our troops leaving

and you whats smart? its smart to announce to the enemy the time your going to leave.. Obama is a quite the genius..
 
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Folks, enough with the baiting and flaming. Get on topic and cease the trolling
 
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We'll have no choice but to go back in with troops. Air raids alone won't help the situation, because the al-Maliki gov't will come under pressure again from the Sunni majority. And the US can't allow that whole region to come under terrorist, Syrian and Iranian control.
 
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Travis007 said:
Not working out a deal with Malaki like Maliki wanted..
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I'm not sure what you're saying here.
We should have worked out a deal that Maliki liked or one that we liked?

Obama only wanted to score politcal points to win elections for OBAMA,,,by anouncing our troops leaving
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I heard many Obama detractors state that the withdrawal had been brokered by the previous administration.
Therefore, the prez deserved no credit.
Now, when the long-predicted chaos unfolds, Obama's to blame?
All this spinning is making me dizzy.

and you whats smart? its smart to announce to the enemy the time your going to leave.. Obama is a quite the genius..
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Yeah, the smart thing to do is keep our soldiers stationed between warring factions.
Sort of a buffer zone, eh?
That way, we can sacrifice more Americans for the false hope of Middle-Eastern democracy.
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
no. both administrations, both parties, the entire united states are shackled to the corpses of the afghanistan/iraq wars. 14 years of misguided, foolish, and pointless war.
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I think the original war in Afghanistan was fully justified. Remember it as UBL and AQ which devised and flew the planes into the trade towers and the pentagon. It was Sheik Omar and the Taliban which controlled the southern two thirds of Afghanistan who was giving sanctuary, a safe haven for UBL and AQ to run their terrorist plots out of and as a training ground for more and more terrorist. I believe that portion of the war was fully justified.

Hooking up with the Northern Alliance, an alliance of 14 different tribes fighting against the Taliban for control of Afghanistan was ideal. This enabled us with but a few SF and paramilitary on the ground to let the Northern Alliance do all the ground fighting and for us to provide air power. It worked magnificently. The Northern Alliance drove the Taliban with AQ and UBL along with them pretty much out of Afghanistan. No more safe haven, sanctuary or training grounds no more. But they failed to capture UBL.

I would say that is pretty much mission accomplished, except for one thing, no UBL. So we sent in 100,000 troops and began this so called nation building thing. From this point on, was it justified, I don’t know. Iraq is another story, I really have a problem with pre-emptive wars.
 
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grip said:
We'll have no choice but to go back in with troops. Air raids alone won't help the situation, because the al-Maliki gov't will come under pressure again from the Sunni majority. And the US can't allow that whole region to come under terrorist, Syrian and Iranian control.
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Syria is out of the picture. When ISIS forces are done with Iraq, they will turn back to Syria and finish there as well.
 
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