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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Just curious Ockham, I know full well you know that certain posters in this thread are completely full of crap and are outright lying about the situation in Iraq for basically the entire time we were there. Why don't you say something about their flagrant dishonesty?

    This chart alone:

    BBC News - Iraq's annual death toll highest in five years - UN

    Suggests that Iraq under Obama's administration was far safer than time under Bush's.
    First I haven't read the entire thread nor all the responses. Second, I'm really not interested in re-litigating 2001-2008 again. Third, my personal view has shifted on Iraq from being fully for occupation and invasion at the time, to now seeing the people, their culture and their moronic religious fanaticism as not being worth it and to let them kill each other, with the view that the world will be a better place without many if not all of the ISIS and most of the morons who run or are part of the Iraq government.

    There are still valid reasons why some members view the invasion and occupation as a course of action and three years ago I may have agreed with them, now I do not. I firmly belive there are two courses of action the US can take - one is to be the policeman and the other is to not do it. The latter increases the percentage of another world war in my opinion and perhaps that is what we need as humans. To be reminded of our inadequacies and stupidity a few times every hundred years by killing off massive numbers of soldiers and innocents. Stupid is as stupid does.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    FDR was a great POTUS, but WW2 ended the Depression. RWR was the second greatest POTUS of the 20th century, after FDR.
    I'll admit, you surprise me, a bit

    We were coming out of the GOP great depression until FDR listened to the deficit scolds and cut spending by 10% in 1937...

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    The biggest mistake Obama made in his 6 years in office is "Cutting and Running" in Iraq and pulling all our troops from there like a sniveling coward. I try to find one good thing this man has done in his 6 years of office and there are none..........Now almost every country in the mid east Is under attack and Obama is not doing a damn thing about it except going to Palm Springs for a fund raising event.

    Isn't it ironic that our main enemy in the ME is Iran helping Iraq.
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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Obama didn't want to stay because he needed a political narrative. A " Success "... His decision to bale on Iraq was specifically based on how it would affect him politically. How long have we had bases in Japan, Germany, and Korea ?? He's absolutely to blame for this.
    CON revisionism-
    BushII announced we were leaving back in 2008 with a date of 2011. AMERICANS insisted, IRAQIS insisted. BushII needed 'success' after the debacle of WMD and the arrogant/ignorant occupation so he created one out of smoke and money. He tried create a CON game that we had 'won' during a lull in the fighting he bribed ALL sides to create and then scuttled away.

    More CON Game- how many USofA Troops died after VE/VJ day? How many suicide bombers attacked our troops? How many German or Japanese policemen turned their weapons on their USofA trainers? How many used IEDs on military convoys in Bremen, Osaka? How many mortared USofA bases on Japanese or German soil?

    Over 96% of our losses were AFTER the fall of Baghdad...

    Absolutely no comparison...

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The biggest mistake Obama made in his 6 years in office is "Cutting and Running" in Iraq and pulling all our troops from there like a sniveling coward. I try to find one good thing this man has done in his 6 years of office and there are none..........Now almost every country in the mid east Is under attack and Obama is not doing a damn thing about it except going to Palm Springs for a fund raising event.
    Typical nonsense from the extreme right.

    Iraq has been a ****hole for thousands of years. Not a damned thing we can do about it. We don't need to own yet another ****hole. We need to get the hell out of there.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    He carpet bombed.. but I guess you hate the people of Iraq
    I don't think it is our place to interfere with other nation's sovereignty, if we don't have to. I didn't like it when Bush invaded and I didn't like it that Obama didn't bring the soldiers home sooner.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Who IS the president now, while things are going to hell?
    Just because Obama has made a mess out of Iraq doesn't change who ordered the invasion. For some reason you are unable to see but one side of the situation. Wake up and see the whole picture.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance [W:246, 565, *656*]

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    We should never have gone in there period.
    Ah but we did go in there blessed by the democrats get over it...Its ancient history. The problem now is your daddy pulled the troops out before the job was done....Get that through your head.....Now this radical group is on its way to Baghdad and another Embassy is endangering of falling making Benghazi look like a first graders birthday party and Obama (the clueless one) is doing nothing.
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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance [W:246, 565, *656*]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Ah but we did go in there blessed by the democrats get over it...Its ancient history. The problem now is your daddy pulled the troops out before the job was done....Get that through your head.....Now this radical group is on its way to Baghdad and another Embassy is endangering of falling making Benghazi look like a first graders birthday party and Obama (the clueless one) is doing nothing.
    If you want us to get involved, sign a proper declaration of war.
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