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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Some people will never, ever acknowledge that the Iraq War was driven by a neoconservative agenda that preceded 9/11. They'll go to their graves thinking that the Bush Administration was simply duped by faulty intelligence.
    "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor"
    The above whitepaper wasn't published in a vacuum.
    Ever stop to think who READS THIS STUFF?
    I assure you the audience isn't limited to a few policy wonks and partisan hacks at some DC think tank.

    For my money, this was a WANT AD advertising that America was ripe and wide open for an attack.
    For my money it would read thusly:

    PNACnewpearlharborwantad.jpg
    If I didn't respond to your diatribe, it's possible you may have
    engaged in revisionism or broad sweeping generalizations.
    I don't have time for either, and you're probably on my IGNORE list.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Never heard that ridiculous lie before ...

    Does your use of CAPS make the old lie true all of the sudden?

    Starting in 1982 with Iranian success on the battlefield, the United States made its backing of Iraq more pronounced, normalizing relations with the government, supplying it with economic aid, counter-insurgency training, operational intelligence on the battlefield, and weapons


    In an October 1, 2002, article entitled “Iraq Got Germs for Weapons Program from U.S. in ’80s,” Associated Press writer Matt Kelly wrote,

    [The] Iraqi bioweapons program that President Bush wants to eradicate got its start with help from Uncle Sam two decades ago, according to government records that are getting new scrutiny in light of the discussion of war against Iraq.

    ... The transfers came in the 1980s, when the United States backed Iraq in its war against Iran.


    Milwaukee Journal Sentinel - Google News Archive Search


    In a December 17, 2002, article entitled “Iraq Used Many Suppliers for Nuke Program,” the Associated Press stated,

    Dozens of suppliers, most in Europe, the United States and Japan, provided the components and know-how Saddam Hussein needed to build an atomic bomb, according to Iraq’s 1996 accounting of its nuclear program....

    ...In a September 26, 2002, article entitled “Following Iraq's Bioweapons Trail,” columnist Robert Novak wrote,

    An eight-year-old Senate report confirms that disease-producing and poisonous materials were exported, under U.S. government license, to Iraq from 1985 to 1988 during the Iran-Iraq war. Furthermore, the report adds, the American-exported materials were identical to microorganisms destroyed by United Nations inspectors after the Gulf War. The shipments were approved despite allegations that Saddam used biological weapons against Kurdish rebels and (according to the current official U.S. position) initiated war with Iran.

    MANY MORE ARTICLES HERE

    Reagan's WMD Connection to Saddam Hussein by Jacob Hornberger

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Everyone except those who realize that Iraq's cooperation is required to change the SOAF?

    Cite, please.
    Had it been otherwise, there would have been an agreement.
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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Pretty much every administration since perhaps Carter has been supplying insurgents with weapons. I don't know about chemical weapons though. That could be a lie perpetrated by Team Obama Penis Suckers Incorporated.
    TOPSI?


    Did you just make that up?

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Pretty much every administration since perhaps Carter has been supplying insurgents with weapons. I don't know about chemical weapons though. That could be a lie perpetrated by Team Obama Penis Suckers Incorporated.
    In an October 1, 2002, article entitled “Iraq Got Germs for Weapons Program from U.S. in ’80s,” Associated Press writer Matt Kelly

    In a September 26, 2002, article entitled “Following Iraq's Bioweapons Trail,” columnist Robert Novak wrote,

    An eight-year-old Senate report confirms that disease-producing and poisonous materials were exported, under U.S. government license, to Iraq from 1985 to 1988 during the Iran-Iraq war. Furthermore, the report adds, the American-exported materials were identical to microorganisms destroyed by United Nations inspectors after the Gulf War. The shipments were approved despite allegations that Saddam used biological weapons against Kurdish rebels and (according to the current official U.S. position) initiated war with Iran.

    MANY more articles here

    Reagan's WMD Connection to Saddam Hussein by Jacob Hornberger


    The US and Britain sold Saddam Hussein the technology and materials Iraq needed to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction.

    Reports by the US Senate's committee on banking, housing and urban affairs -- which oversees American exports policy -- reveal that the US, under the successive administrations of Ronald Reagan and George Bush Snr, sold materials including anthrax, VX nerve gas, West Nile fever germs and botulism to Iraq right up until March 1992, as well as germs similar to tuberculosis and pneumonia. Other bacteria sold included brucella melitensis, which damages major organs, and clostridium perfringens, which causes gas gangrene.


    How Did Iraq Get Its WMD? - We Sold Them To Saddam

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    TOPSI?


    Did you just make that up?
    We Sold Them To Saddam
    By Neil Mackay and Felicity Arbuthnot
    The Sunday Herald - UK
    9-6-2

    The US and Britain sold Saddam Hussein the technology and materials Iraq needed to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction.

    Reports by the US Senate's committee on banking, housing and urban affairs -- which oversees American exports policy -- reveal that the US, under the successive administrations of Ronald Reagan and George Bush Snr, sold materials including anthrax, VX nerve gas, West Nile fever germs and botulism to Iraq right up until March 1992, as well as germs similar to tuberculosis and pneumonia.

    How Did Iraq Get Its WMD? - We Sold Them To Saddam

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Really? Is that why I support abortion choice, same sex marriage, drug legalization and open borders?
    Libertarians are FARRRR right on ECONOMIC issues, should have been clearer, I consider Ronn Paul FARRRR right too

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    In an October 1, 2002, article entitled “Iraq Got Germs for Weapons Program from U.S. in ’80s,” Associated Press writer Matt Kelly

    In a September 26, 2002, article entitled “Following Iraq's Bioweapons Trail,” columnist Robert Novak wrote,

    An eight-year-old Senate report confirms that disease-producing and poisonous materials were exported, under U.S. government license, to Iraq from 1985 to 1988 during the Iran-Iraq war. Furthermore, the report adds, the American-exported materials were identical to microorganisms destroyed by United Nations inspectors after the Gulf War. The shipments were approved despite allegations that Saddam used biological weapons against Kurdish rebels and (according to the current official U.S. position) initiated war with Iran.

    MANY more articles here

    Reagan's WMD Connection to Saddam Hussein by Jacob Hornberger


    The US and Britain sold Saddam Hussein the technology and materials Iraq needed to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction.

    Reports by the US Senate's committee on banking, housing and urban affairs -- which oversees American exports policy -- reveal that the US, under the successive administrations of Ronald Reagan and George Bush Snr, sold materials including anthrax, VX nerve gas, West Nile fever germs and botulism to Iraq right up until March 1992, as well as germs similar to tuberculosis and pneumonia. Other bacteria sold included brucella melitensis, which damages major organs, and clostridium perfringens, which causes gas gangrene.


    How Did Iraq Get Its WMD? - We Sold Them To Saddam
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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Besides a LACK of conclusive evidence, there is nothing to indicate that it is not plausible to believe that Saddam Hussein had WMD. Even HE admitted that he tried to make it sound as if he did at the very least. He was trying to convince the international community that he had WMD because he was in fear of Iran.

    None of this disproves that there were, prior to 2003, WMD being stockpiled or manufactured in Iraq. It is certainly plausible.
    We Sold Them To Saddam
    By Neil Mackay and Felicity Arbuthnot
    The Sunday Herald - UK
    9-6-2

    The US and Britain sold Saddam Hussein the technology and materials Iraq needed to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction.

    How Did Iraq Get Its WMD? - We Sold Them To Saddam

    THE WMD'S FAIL WAS THEY DEGRADED BEFORE DUBYA'S WAR OF CHOICE

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    Libertarians are FARRRR right on ECONOMIC issues, should have been clearer, I consider Ronn Paul FARRRR right too
    I don't care for Ron Paul, and I don't have a problem with Keynes on principle.
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