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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The insurgency was defeated by American forces.
    Jesus, do you have any working knowledge at all of what happened?

    Iraq was in the middle of a multiple front civil war. What turned the tide was not American troops but the Sunni Awakening Councils which essentially separated the fish from the water. If you had ANY understanding of COIN, which you obviously do not, you would have credited them, and not American forces with success. Your asinine comment is saying the British forces via brute force defeated the Malayan insurgency rather than COIN operations with native forces. And you keep pretending that Iraq wasn't seeing bombings and attacks during 2008. Because you have 0% interest in anything but partisan hackery.

    Why do you keep white washing Iraq? Why do you hate the noble men and women who died there that much?

    If American forces were still there, none of this would be happening.
    Is that why we had bombings on the day American forces pulled out? Because no bombings happened at all when we had troops there? oh wait.... Your partisan hackery is beyond measure.

    Obama pissed on the grave of every serviceman that died in Iraq, when he gave the whole show away.
    Because Iraq was just peachy in 2008 right?

    Thanks for proving my point. You only care about sticking things to Democrats and pretending everything was fine when a Republican was in power. More proof you don't give a **** about the lives of people in uniform.

    Tell me, how would you have convinced the Iraqis to drop their requirement for Judicial Jurisdiction? Let's see if you can for once come up with a constructive argument. I bet you can't.
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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The insurgency was defeated by American forces. If American forces were still there, none of this would be happening. Obama pissed on the grave of every serviceman that died in Iraq, when he gave the whole show away.
    American servicemen and women were stationed in Western Europe decades after WWII in order to maintain peace but left Iraq to its fate far too soon. You're right. Those who were killed and injured in Iraq, and now Afghanistan (which Obama was for), will have died for nothing. It is a lasting shame for the USA.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Relevant to Iraq? Yes, he did very well in Iraq both with his "Shock and Awe" campaign and introducing the first democratic election in the country's history. Recall all the proud people holding uo their purple fingers after they voted for the first time?

    Here are a few of Obama's remarks during the election campaign. Obama Campaign Promises: Ending the Iraq War

    and a great memory maker. Obama Sets Timetable for Iraq Withdrawal, Calling It Part of Broader Middle East Strategy
    Bush set a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq

    Iraq and U.S. agree that all U.S. forces will withdraw "no later than December 31, 2011."

    December 14, 2008

    Bush signed SOFA, which "lays out a framework for the withdrawal of American forces in Iraq."

    President Bush and Iraq Prime Minister Maliki Sign the Strategic Framework Agreement and Security Agreement

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    It's amazing how much you hate the 4,000+ men and women who died in Iraq. You dishonor their memories with your terribad claims. Just more proof that extremist Republicans don't give a **** about the lives of our men and women in uniform.
    This is tough medicine, but his post needed it.
    We should also not blame Nixon/Ford for the way we left Vietnam, a war that began with the other party, as well as IKE and Korea.

    Too bad we've been fighting internally between parties over foreign entanglements since Vietnam.
    To be a better web-site, this should be rule one, no more ****ing blaming on foreign affairs, a most difficult rule for all of us to observe .
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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    LOL, Yes, let's occupy the world. You signing onto get the GOP's to get a war tax for Bush's war of choice on those 'job creators'?
    He thinks you want to occupy the world, Apdst. These leftists seem to guess at their responses from some multiple choice board.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    This is tough medicine, but his post needed it.
    We should also not blame Nixon/Ford for the way we left Vietnam, a war that began with the other party, as well as IKE and Korea.

    Too bad we've been fighting internally between parties over foreign entanglements since Vietnam.
    To be a better web-site, this should be rule one, no more ****ing blaming on foreign affairs, a most difficult rule for all of us to observe .
    The Korean War was a UN backed operation.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    LOL, Yes, let's occupy the world. You signing onto get the GOP's to get a war tax for Bush's war of choice on those 'job creators'?
    Occupy the world? There's need for that. We shouldn't have pulled out of Iraq, though. That's painfully obvious. The civilian casualties are going to make Operation Iraqi Freedom look like a bar room brawl on a saturday night.

    It down right shameful how the Libbos are taking advantage of this to say "I told you so".
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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He thinks you want to occupy the world, Apdst. These leftists seem to guess at their responses from some multiple choice board.
    Bush signed SOFA, which "lays out a framework for the withdrawal of American forces in Iraq."

    President Bush and Iraq Prime Minister Maliki Sign the Strategic Framework Agreement and Security Agreement

    December 14, 2008

    Iraq and U.S. agree that all U.S. forces will withdraw "no later than December 31, 2011."

    President Bush and Iraq Prime Minister Maliki Sign the Strategic Framework Agreement and Security Agreement

    November 27, 2008


    Calling the SOFA "another sign of progress," President Bush said in a November 27, 2008, statement, "The Strategic Framework Agreement sets the foundation for a long-term bilateral relationship between our two countries, and the Security Agreement addresses our presence, activities, and withdrawal from Iraq."

    Statement by the President on Agreements with Iraq

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    Bush set a timetable for withdrawal from Iraq

    Iraq and U.S. agree that all U.S. forces will withdraw "no later than December 31, 2011."

    December 14, 2008

    Bush signed SOFA, which "lays out a framework for the withdrawal of American forces in Iraq."

    President Bush and Iraq Prime Minister Maliki Sign the Strategic Framework Agreement and Security Agreement
    Yes, a terrible mistake by Bush and one Obama should have renegotiated, if he had any balls or foresight.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Finally these people can have the civil war they have wanted all along.
    Leave them alone.

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