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Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance
That, with all due respect, is rather unrealistic. We can declare victory and claim that we "won the war" till the cows come home.
We can make the demands till we're green in the face but ultimately, if they decide that US troops will be dragged into Iraqi courts, then
that's what's going to happen, UNLESS we want to RESTART the war again, in which case, WE HAVEN'T really won.
This isn't 1793, they aren't King George's Royal Army, and no one is lining up in some bucolic green meadow fighting "a gentleman's war".
Maliki said what he said. He said that he refused to guarantee their immunity if they remained.
Our only option after something like that is to start the war all over again, right from the beginning and, someone please tell me again why
we're over there fighting?
First it was to get Saddam, then it was to bring them democracy, then it was to stabilize the region, then it really WAS (by Bush's own admission) to
secure an agreement for the oil. We didn't get any of that. I say that because I really can't term what they have now as "democracy" quite yet.
Sure, it's something of a representative government, and maybe as close to democracy as we're going to see outside of Turkey but it's not democracy.
So what did we win?
Nothing.
What did we lose?
Plenty.
We won the war and we should have made the demands "and" we should have left some troops there..
That, with all due respect, is rather unrealistic. We can declare victory and claim that we "won the war" till the cows come home.
We can make the demands till we're green in the face but ultimately, if they decide that US troops will be dragged into Iraqi courts, then
that's what's going to happen, UNLESS we want to RESTART the war again, in which case, WE HAVEN'T really won.
This isn't 1793, they aren't King George's Royal Army, and no one is lining up in some bucolic green meadow fighting "a gentleman's war".
Maliki said what he said. He said that he refused to guarantee their immunity if they remained.
Our only option after something like that is to start the war all over again, right from the beginning and, someone please tell me again why
we're over there fighting?
First it was to get Saddam, then it was to bring them democracy, then it was to stabilize the region, then it really WAS (by Bush's own admission) to
secure an agreement for the oil. We didn't get any of that. I say that because I really can't term what they have now as "democracy" quite yet.
Sure, it's something of a representative government, and maybe as close to democracy as we're going to see outside of Turkey but it's not democracy.
So what did we win?
Nothing.
What did we lose?
Plenty.