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Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance [W:246, 565, *656*]

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The good thing about letting the UN mishandle it is that gets the USA off the hook.

Look at the great job that the UN's doing in Syria.

I don't believe that anyone on this forum wants to go to Iraq to referee the full scale civil war that's about to happen there.

In 2011 BHO gave away GWB's Iraq victory, and in 2012 BHO declined an opportunity for an easy win in Syria. Now he reaps the whirlwind.:peace
 
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there isnt a real turkish authority in this country..l believe we should stay independent and get out of nato

Heya M. :2wave: Well they will need to get their people back from AQ.

The Media justs get stuck on using the term Insurgents. Their made up and chosen word for when they want to deflect using Terrorists. That's who took the Turks People. It was AQ. Not Insurgents!
 
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Well, we could have split Iraq up into 3 countries but Turkey didn't want Kurdistan next door so now we've got what we've got and it's going to get a lot worse before it ever gets better.
 
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They were never really on the run, if anything, our intervention and destabilization of the area has created an even more accomodating atmosphere for their propaganda and recruiting.

Tell Obama , not me.

I was being sarcastic.
 
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I've got some bad news and some good news about Iraq: First the bad news-there isn't any good news.

That's not a lame attempt at a joke, that's just the truth.
 
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Heya M. :2wave: Well they will need to get their people back from AQ.

The Media justs get stuck on using the term Insurgents. Their made up and chosen word for when they want to deflect using Terrorists. That's who took the Turks People. It was AQ. Not Insurgents!

l dont think they care about any turk.sad but true.they are in love with those" insurgents":confused:
 
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Tell Obama , not me.

I was being sarcastic.

Could have told Bush too. Those two have pushed towards the same end. This is just the establishment of infinity war, a hallmark of a fascist state.
 
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Well, we could have split Iraq up into 3 countries but Turkey didn't want Kurdistan next door so now we've got what we've got and it's going to get a lot worse before it ever gets better.

iran and syria wanted ? and we saw what happened then.our soldiers and commanders (3 female colonels too ) were convicted for defending turkey's rights in the region.
 
Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

The good thing about letting the UN mishandle it is that gets the USA off the hook.

Look at the great job that the UN's doing in Syria.

I don't believe that anyone on this forum wants to go to Iraq to referee the full scale civil war that's about to happen there.

Just like in Syria no matter which side wins it's not going to be great news for the USA.



Yeah SN.....send in the French. Their into everybody else Business anyways. :lol:
 
Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

The good thing about letting the UN mishandle it is that gets the USA off the hook.

Look at the great job that the UN's doing in Syria.

I don't believe that anyone on this forum wants to go to Iraq to referee the full scale civil war that's about to happen there.

Just like in Syria no matter which side wins it's not going to be great news for the USA.

We'll be end up going back, sooner or later. :shrug:
 
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Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance



Iraq is going down fast. The US should never have pulled troops out. We should have been resolved to be there for decades, like in Germany, Japan, and South Korea.

I agree completely. Who did not see this coming? Ever since Vietnam our country has failed miserably on the world stage when it comes to containing rouge elements. We are slowly reverting back to Pre-WW1 isolationist status thanks to the anti-war and feminists. It will take another WW1/WW2 for the US to get back on track unfortunately. The tension in the ME is building while we retreat back behind our boarders. If we had stayed in Iraq we would have been in a prime location to avert ME aggression. The same plan has worked for 50+years in Asia. Locate a base in the middle of all the hot spots and tell all of them to behave. Doing so has allowed Asia to become one of the fastest growing economic regions of the world. Our association with them has also likewise grown the US economy exponentially.

Never listen to an anti-war/feminist crowd the best way to handle international relations. Doing so would be a grave mistake.

But what we could do is deport all he anti-war and feminist groups to the ME to destroy their countries..
 
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I agree completely. Who did not see this coming? Ever since Vietnam our country has failed miserably on the world stage when it comes to containing rouge elements. We are slowly reverting back to Pre-WW1 isolationist status thanks to the anti-war and feminists. It will take another WW1/WW2 for the US to get back on track unfortunately. The tension in the ME is building while we retreat back behind our boarders. If we had stayed in Iraq we would have been in a prime location to avert ME aggression. The same plan has worked for 50+years in Asia. Locate a base in the middle of all the hot spots and tell all of them to behave. Doing so has allowed Asia to become one of the fastest growing economic regions of the world. Our association with them has also likewise grown the US economy exponentially.

Never listen to an anti-war/feminist crowd the best way to handle international relations. Doing so would be a grave mistake.

But what we could do is deport all he anti-war and feminist groups to the ME to destroy their countries..

it is like leaving a woman after raping and gettin her pregnant


war is a murder if it is not for self defense.
 
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it is like leaving a woman after raping and gettin her pregnant


war is a murder if it is not for self defense.

I agree completely.. When Iraq invaded Kuwait... I guess it was not bad enough that Saddam and his sons were running around Iraq raping and killing women as well as their husbands. We should have allowed him to expand this to Kuwait as well...

ORRRRR we could have taken him out during the first gulf war and avoided the 2nd disaster all together.
 
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Yup. BHO has given away GWB's victory.

Another 'victory' like BushII's and we are undone. Iraq was a failed state through out the BushII debacle, there was no victory, just a temporary drop in violence as the surge no one mentions took effect- a surge of US dollars into the Sunni areas of control to bribe the Arabs into curbing their kidnapping and terrorism for hire schemes.

The Iraqi government was never functional, the Iraqi army never stood up. Many Iraqis defined themselves by religion than nationality. We could piss away lives and treasure in that desert until the 2nd Coming and democracy would never embrace the whole of Iraqi. We got a temporary halt to the violence toward American troops and a low boil on the religious fighting, but never got a victory...
 
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well, I'm torn between " **** em' it's not our business " and " **** the Islamist extremists, kill em all"

I have 3 kids in uniform... i'll go with the latter opinion for 1 of them, the former for the other 2.
 
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I agree completely.. When Iraq invaded Kuwait... I guess it was not bad enough that Saddam and his sons were running around Iraq raping and killing women as well as their husbands. We should have allowed him to expand this to Kuwait as well...

ORRRRR we could have taken him out during the first gulf war and avoided the 2nd disaster all together.

maybe.but you didnt.you let saddam **** these women for another ten years .
 
Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

Another 'victory' like BushII's and we are undone. Iraq was a failed state through out the BushII debacle, there was no victory, just a temporary drop in violence as the surge no one mentions took effect- a surge of US dollars into the Sunni areas of control to bribe the Arabs into curbing their kidnapping and terrorism for hire schemes.

The Iraqi government was never functional, the Iraqi army never stood up. Many Iraqis defined themselves by religion than nationality. We could piss away lives and treasure in that desert until the 2nd Coming and democracy would never embrace the whole of Iraqi. We got a temporary halt to the violence toward American troops and a low boil on the religious fighting, but never got a victory...

And had we kept a modest advisory and reaction force in place, and sustained our leverage over the Iraqi government, this could all have been avoided.:peace
 
Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

Another 'victory' like BushII's and we are undone. Iraq was a failed state through out the BushII debacle, there was no victory, just a temporary drop in violence as the surge no one mentions took effect- a surge of US dollars into the Sunni areas of control to bribe the Arabs into curbing their kidnapping and terrorism for hire schemes.

The Iraqi government was never functional, the Iraqi army never stood up. Many Iraqis defined themselves by religion than nationality. We could piss away lives and treasure in that desert until the 2nd Coming and democracy would never embrace the whole of Iraqi. We got a temporary halt to the violence toward American troops and a low boil on the religious fighting, but never got a victory...

That's not true at all. The Iraqi elections are proof of that. People in Iraq WANT the freedom to determine the direction of their country. There are simply to many outside influences that continue to prevent that from being a reality. Why do Iraqi's hate the US so much? It's not because they don't want our flavor of freedom. It's not that they don't have many of the same values as we do. You know what it is? It is because they know we bring false hope. We come to their country, blow a bunch of stuff up, loose our resolve and then leave them with a blown up country and extremists. They don't want our help because they know it is no help at all.
 
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maybe.but you didnt.you let saddam **** these women for another ten years .

I didn't. I am only one person. And one of the few that believed we should have gone all the way to Baghdad and took Saddam out the first time. I was scratching my head back then when I was a young teen, and I still continue to scratch my head today. If Im confused, you can only imagine the Iraqi's. They must think we are complete morons and I would not blame them.
 
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I didn't. I am only one person. And one of the few that believed we should have gone all the way to Baghdad and took Saddam out the first time. I was scratching my head back then when I was a young teen, and I still continue to scratch my head today. If Im confused, you can only imagine the Iraqi's. They must think we are complete morons and I would not blame them.

"you" is a nominative pronoun used to refer to both singular and plural "second" person.:lol:

you (yourself ) may believe it was all about saddam.but it wasnt.saddam and many other dictators were Cia's close friends untill they create a danger .
 
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"you" is a nominative pronoun used to refer to both singular and plural "second" person.:lol:

you (yourself ) may believe it was all about saddam.but it wasnt.saddam and many other dictators were Cia's close friends untill they create a danger .

That's true. Not understanding why we supported him shows you don't understand geopolitics. Do you know why we "supported" Saddam? And then do you know why we stopped support for Saddam? If you understand geopolitics and know history, its an easy question to answer. But if you learned more rhetoric and propaganda rather then history and geopolitics, then the question itself probably wont make sense to you.
 
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