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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    The Western world can't be cut off from the oil.
    We got along without Iraq's oil when Saddam was in power.
    What makes you so certain that any new rulers won't sell their oil?
    Saddam certainly was happy to do so.

    It's a classic issue of national security. Global security, in fact.
    Maybe.
    China uses a lot of oil.
    How are they able to obtain crude while avoiding ME quagmires?
    No matter how cynical I become toward politicians, it's never enough.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    14 years?
    the entirety of the war on terror.
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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    The Western world can't be cut off from the oil. It's a classic issue of national security. Global security, in fact.
    LOL

    Why should we care about the "Western world"?

    How about instead we worry about the United States.

    If we do that we're golden.

    Between what we're pulling out of shale, and what we can import from SA, we'll be just fine in terms of oil and we're on pace to be self-sufficient within the next 10 to 20 years anyway.

    If India and China want cheap oil to build the economic infrastructures that are poised to bury the U.S. let them spend their money, and the lives of their citizens, making the Middle East safe for capitalism.
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    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    no. both administrations, both parties, the entire united states are shackled to the corpses of the afghanistan/iraq wars. 14 years of misguided, foolish, and pointless war.
    Only the current administration can deal with current issues. "For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday." Gibran.
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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the width raw order was a hand me down from the previous administration.
    Doesn't matter. The current administration has had 6 years to improve it. Silence is consent. FWIW: Obama DID ask for the job.
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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the entirety of the war on terror.
    The GWOT hasn't been going on for 14 years.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    wrong
    I swear to God, the way these people are posting one would think Bush is still in the White House. I wish they would look at their clocks and calendars.
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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    We'll have no choice but to go back in with troops. Air raids alone won't help the situation, because the al-Maliki gov't will come under pressure again from the Sunni majority. And the US can't allow that whole region to come under terrorist, Syrian and Iranian control.
    That won't happen.
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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    I'm not sure what you're saying here.
    We should have worked out a deal that Maliki liked or one that we liked?



    I heard many Obama detractors state that the withdrawal had been brokered by the previous administration.
    Therefore, the prez deserved no credit.
    Now, when the long-predicted chaos unfolds, Obama's to blame?
    All this spinning is making me dizzy.



    Yeah, the smart thing to do is keep our soldiers stationed between warring factions.
    Sort of a buffer zone, eh?
    That way, we can sacrifice more Americans for the false hope of Middle-Eastern democracy.
    Obama has had 6 years to change anything 'brokered' by the previous administration
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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    They wanted us out, we left. Now they can suck it. Maybe Iran will come to their rescue this time.
    Finally, an educated view point.

    Unlike the trolls who can't figure out why the SOFA never got agreed to.

    Obama was right for NOT agreeing to the Iraqi demand for US soldiers to be under Iraqi Judicial Jurisdiction. They were never going to drop that demand and we were never going to agree to it.

    Serves them right not budging.
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