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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    no. both administrations, both parties, the entire united states are shackled to the corpses of the afghanistan/iraq wars. 14 years of misguided, foolish, and pointless war.

    tell me about OIL FOR FOOD..

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    I believe it was Obama who ended it in Iraq. Don't think it was Bush. Yep. Sure it was Obama.
    the width raw order was a hand me down from the previous administration.
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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    I believe FACT based things. You, not so much. TRY to get off ideology and more into facts...
    so you believe Joe Biden... sounds to me like your a big fan of Al Frankens old radio show
    Last edited by Travis007; 06-12-14 at 04:51 PM.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the width raw order was a hand me down from the previous administration.
    wrong

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    Such as?
    Not working out a deal with Malaki like Maliki wanted..

    Obama only wanted to score politcal points to win elections for OBAMA,,,by anouncing our troops leaving

    and you whats smart? its smart to announce to the enemy the time your going to leave.. Obama is a quite the genius..

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    We'll have no choice but to go back in with troops. Air raids alone won't help the situation, because the al-Maliki gov't will come under pressure again from the Sunni majority. And the US can't allow that whole region to come under terrorist, Syrian and Iranian control.
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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    Not working out a deal with Malaki like Maliki wanted..
    I'm not sure what you're saying here.
    We should have worked out a deal that Maliki liked or one that we liked?

    Obama only wanted to score politcal points to win elections for OBAMA,,,by anouncing our troops leaving
    I heard many Obama detractors state that the withdrawal had been brokered by the previous administration.
    Therefore, the prez deserved no credit.
    Now, when the long-predicted chaos unfolds, Obama's to blame?
    All this spinning is making me dizzy.

    and you whats smart? its smart to announce to the enemy the time your going to leave.. Obama is a quite the genius..
    Yeah, the smart thing to do is keep our soldiers stationed between warring factions.
    Sort of a buffer zone, eh?
    That way, we can sacrifice more Americans for the false hope of Middle-Eastern democracy.
    No matter how cynical I become toward politicians, it's never enough.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    no. both administrations, both parties, the entire united states are shackled to the corpses of the afghanistan/iraq wars. 14 years of misguided, foolish, and pointless war.
    I think the original war in Afghanistan was fully justified. Remember it as UBL and AQ which devised and flew the planes into the trade towers and the pentagon. It was Sheik Omar and the Taliban which controlled the southern two thirds of Afghanistan who was giving sanctuary, a safe haven for UBL and AQ to run their terrorist plots out of and as a training ground for more and more terrorist. I believe that portion of the war was fully justified.

    Hooking up with the Northern Alliance, an alliance of 14 different tribes fighting against the Taliban for control of Afghanistan was ideal. This enabled us with but a few SF and paramilitary on the ground to let the Northern Alliance do all the ground fighting and for us to provide air power. It worked magnificently. The Northern Alliance drove the Taliban with AQ and UBL along with them pretty much out of Afghanistan. No more safe haven, sanctuary or training grounds no more. But they failed to capture UBL.

    I would say that is pretty much mission accomplished, except for one thing, no UBL. So we sent in 100,000 troops and began this so called nation building thing. From this point on, was it justified, I donít know. Iraq is another story, I really have a problem with pre-emptive wars.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    We'll have no choice but to go back in with troops. Air raids alone won't help the situation, because the al-Maliki gov't will come under pressure again from the Sunni majority. And the US can't allow that whole region to come under terrorist, Syrian and Iranian control.
    Syria is out of the picture. When ISIS forces are done with Iraq, they will turn back to Syria and finish there as well.
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