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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Of course that is what you believe because that is what you want to believe. I had three family members there and didn't sleep well at night but all came back with the same story, we did the right thing although nothing is going to change your mind or anyone else who is so short term thinkers that they cannot see the forest for the trees. they will soon. Liberals live in a utopian bubble and judge everyone else in the world by their own standards. they simply cannot accept the fact that you cannot talk people out of their ideology and hatred for this country. It is like a cancer and has to be cut out or it will spread.
    I knew this conversation would decline into another dimension.

    Have a nice day, I'm finished with the liburul utopian **** with you right here. adios.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Too much CON to reprint. 'Others' don't want to destroy our way of life, if that was the case hundreds of truck bombs, like Mcviegh's in OKC, would be happening IN THIS COUNTRY. No they want us OUT. Out of their country, out of their politics and out of their culture. We prop up petty tyrants and call then 'allies'.

    Force???? Seriously???? we can't afford 'force'... BushII didn't want to use 'force'... he wanted to use shock and awe. He wanted to bluff like war is poker. He refused to put the proper amount of FORCE in Iraq or Afghanistan. He refused to put us on a wartime footing- go shopping and be a 'patriot'. Afghanistan is the same BushII bumble. Years of low manning and now a late attempt to stabilize...

    Funny thing I agree on what happens when you ignore the resume and fall for the rhetoric, we did that in 2000....

    Really? interesting how the economic results don't show that nor the foreign policy successes. Iraq was stable when Bush left office, it is a mess now. The economy went into free fall when Democrats took over the Congress but prior to that the GDP Growth, job creation, govt. revenue was better than anything we have now. Too bad liberals ignore bls.gov, bea.gov, Treasury data and of course basic civics and history

    Bush was a governor, Obama a Community agitator. Democrats were more interested in regaining the WH than doing what was right for the American people and knew that people like you would blame Bush for the results generated with a Democrat controlled Congress.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    October 2010, record Iraqi and Coalition military deaths between January 2004 and December 2009 The documents record 109,032 deaths broken down into "Civilian" (66,081 deaths), "Host Nation" (15,196 deaths),"Enemy" (23,984 deaths), and "Friendly" (3,771 deaths)

    Iraq war logs: secret files show how US ignored torture | World news | The Guardian


    Associated Press stated that more than 110,600 Iraqis had been killed since the start of the war to April 2009.
    Ignored? Nope. We recorded, and filed, and sent up. I did that a few times myself - take all the pictures, write the reports, put it into a package, send it up to the Iraqi chain of command, only to watch it disappear and die of neglect. The Iraqi's were sovereign. If they wanted to take a prisoner, well, it was their freaking country.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That has been debunked in another thread as has been your credibility.
    please, cut the crap.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by dad2three2001 View Post
    October 2010, record Iraqi and Coalition military deaths between January 2004 and December 2009 The documents record 109,032 deaths broken down into "Civilian" (66,081 deaths), "Host Nation" (15,196 deaths),"Enemy" (23,984 deaths), and "Friendly" (3,771 deaths)

    Iraq war logs: secret files show how US ignored torture | World news | The Guardian


    Associated Press stated that more than 110,600 Iraqis had been killed since the start of the war to April 2009.
    War is hell but unfortunately necessary to cut the cancer out that is invading us all. You live for today and ignore reality all the time.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That has been debunked in another thread as has been your credibility.
    Nonsense, BLS numbers. Try again...

    CONservatives are NEVER honest

    Total private

    Jan 2001 111,859,000
    Jan 2009 111,397,000

    BUSH LOST 673,000 PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS

    OBAMA HAS 5+ MILLION

    MAY 2014 116,594,000


    http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0500000001

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    please, cut the crap.
    Right, cut the crap and stick to the OP. I am sticking to the OP and this isn't the OP to discuss Bush economic results

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    They're splintered off from alQaeda, but aren't part of the organization. It's right in your quote. "Led to the group's formal split from al-Qaeda "

    I notice you didn't answer the direct question. How many more American lives do we sacrifice for a place that is unwilling or unable to overcome sectarianism?
    True they are no longer part of the Al Qaeda organization, but todays Al Qaeda isn't the same Al Qaeda of 2001. That Al Qaeda hasn't existed since 2007.

    Look at all of the splinter groups of CPUSA. "Workers World Party" and the WWP splinter group "Party of Socialism and Liberation," and a splinter of the PSL, the A*N*S*E*W*E*R* Coalition.

    Other CPUSA splinter groups were the "Goucho Marxist" of the 60's and 70's aka "New Left" like the "Students for a Democratic Society" (SDS) and it's splinter group of terrorist, "Weatherman" aka "Weather Underground". The "New Left" would abandon it's CPUSA strategy of overthrowing the U.S. government on the streets of America during the early 70's and adopt a new strategy from doing it from with in. They came under the Democrat tent and first hid behind the liberal label and when they dirtied that label they hide behind the progressive label.

    There all a bunch of Marxist.

    Answering you're question:

    Ask an Iraqi war vet.

    I wouldn't want to see American ground combat troops going back to Iraq. I also know it couldn't be done today considering that only 3 Army Combat Brigades out of 33 are (C-1) or (C-2.)

    Note: I find it interesting that it seems not to be a policy any longer to keep a units combat readiness classified for twelve years. I suppose when our military finds itself in bad shape and a hollow force it has to be made public.

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    War is hell but unfortunately necessary to cut the cancer out that is invading us all. You live for today and ignore reality all the time.
    Sure, because going to Iraq on false premises was needed AND you said they were 'happy' to have US, I don't think that's the universal position. Not much flowers or candy...

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    Re: Iraq insurgents take Saddam's home town in lightning advance

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You neocons never learn. There will be no stable Iraq as long as we continue to meddle there. It is up to the Iraqi's to resolve their own conflicts.
    Yeah, 'cause looking at Iraq right now the word "stability" is totally what comes to mind.

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