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House Majority Leader Cantor loses GOP primary to tea-party challenger[W:243:247:349]

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jakiejakester said:
More good news! Cantor is resigning as Majority Leader. The best news is that while Republicans kill each other off this continuing fighting points again to great success for Democrats / Hillary in 2016. Why? The more you Republicans spew out your anti-immigration bill hate the more Hispanic Americans will vote for Democrats. The more Tea Party people elected to Congress increases dramatically the chances for Hillary.

I love watching the GOP eat their own....
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I probably have the least amount of love for Cantor on debate politics.
However, sometimes it's better the devil you know.
Cantor really was trying to do "incremental" steps for immigration.

If Jeb Hensarling really does climb the ladder of leadership, it is noted that he blew up the SuperCommittee that gave us sequestration, IMO.
I'm still waiting for the TEA party to completely divorce from the GOP, instead of trying to take it over.

Either way, Rand Paul and Ted Cruz can fight it out for the TEA vote while the
establishment GOP governors like Christie and Bush are the flip side of the GOP coin .
 
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jakiejakester said:
More good news! Cantor is resigning as Majority Leader. The best news is that while Republicans kill each other off this continuing fighting points again to great success for Democrats / Hillary in 2016. Why? The more you Republicans spew out your anti-immigration bill hate the more Hispanic Americans will vote for Democrats. The more Tea Party people elected to Congress increases dramatically the chances for Hillary.

I love watching the GOP eat their own....
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It will be interesting to see how Progs explain encouraging foreign invasion, when so many are still un/under employed. Can't see how such a strategy plays out, and how the agenda can be kept hidden much longer.
 
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ocean515 said:
shrubnose said:
Yes, the invasion of illegals encouraged by the left has been something. There are more here in the US than the total populations of a number of countries in Europe.

This is why the backlash has begun.
Supporting foreign invasion is not a winning long term strategy,
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 I guess unless you are a country in Europe, then it's part of the culture.
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How do you think that the GOP will be doing in thirty years when the majority of the voters in the USA will be members of various minority groups?
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ocean515 said:
It will be interesting to see how Progs explain encouraging foreign invasion, when so many are still un/under employed. Can't see how such a strategy plays out, and how the agenda can be kept hidden much longer.
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"Encouraging foreign invasion." :lamo
 
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JasperL said:
Seems obvious!
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http://www.thegreenpapers.com/

These show what is happening in 2014.
Note the next big elections on June 24.
I haven't checked all primaries specifically, but if they're like the 2012 GOP Presidential primaries, they're all over the place.
Usually as open v. closed; as well as winner-take-all v. proportional.
Then you see primary v. caucus; all of these a true version of the 10th amendment.

I would fully support either party's efforts to set the rules for their primaries and limit participation ONLY to registered party members. But until they do, I have every 'right' to express a preference in any primary I choose because the rules INVITE me to do so.
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We'll see whether RNC chief Priebus can continue to squash TEApartiers, as he has this term in the Senate.
Fact is Cantor made his own bed and has no one but himself to blame for his loss. If he treated democrats in his district poorly enough to get them off their rear ends to vote him out, and the rules allow it, maybe he should have reached out to them?
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This is just the beginning of the throw-the-bums-out mentality I believe we'll see this year, both parties.
In your state, L. Alexander escaped a serious challenge this term, but Corker won't in two years .
 
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ocean515 said:
It will be interesting to see how Progs explain encouraging foreign invasion, when so many are still un/under employed.
Can't see how such a strategy plays out, and how the agenda can be kept hidden much longer.
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I haven't noticed any "progs" encouraging foreign invasion, as you charge.
I have seen children running from internal war-torn Central American countries.

As always, a common sense debate by Cantor on "incremental reform" blew up in his face.
Meanwhile, the USA continues to be impotent on solving its problems, no matter who you blame .
 
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ocean515 said:
shrubnose said:
No need. I already have.
I think you might perhaps try to do some thinking yourself
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Tell me all about it in thirty years, after the GOP is reduced to a minor, regional party with no national power by the massive demographic change that's coming at it like a tidal wave right now.




The clock is ticking.

No one can stop time and/or change.
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Beaudreaux said:
I may not be the most talented member here in my ability to be imaginative or well-spoken, but I do know right from wrong.
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I think you did a fine job expressing yer views. I'm a fairly partisan Democrat, but I occasionally vote for Republicans. I agree with what you've said about primaries. It's a complicated issue, but in the end I think the system needs to discourage people from voting "insincerely."

jmotivator said:
The interesting thing about the Democrat conspiracy theory that the polls were over run by Democrats is that they really just shot themselves in the foot if they did. Their is almost zero chance that the Democrat will win VA07, and their stunt effectively killed immigration reform.

Whether or not it is warranted, everything Cantor was championing will now be viewed as election poison for the GOP candidates.
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A truly partisan Democrat would welcome a hard line by Republicans against immigration reform. It's strongly supported nationally and that support is likely to increase. If the GOP can be identified with strict opposition to immigration reform, Democratic candidates will benefit.
 
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shrubnose said:
ocean515 said:
Tell me all about it in thirty years, after the GOP is reduced to a minor, regional party with no national power by the massive demographic change that's coming at it like a tidal wave right now.
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No matter how many times you post your claim, the credibility of the statement will never improve. US History, does not support your claim. US history does support the rejection and defense against foreign invasion.

Since history is the only credible source here, then those who are encouraging this invasion will be removed from power, and those who are a part of it, will be dealt with. That is the only credible truth. The rest is just so much hot air.
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jimbo said:
He really can't run as an independent. The time for placement on the ballot has come and gone. That's why the Dem name was tossed into the hat at 3:00 or so yesterday. There are rules to be followed, petitions to be signed.

In addition, losers of primaries are not eligible for ballot recognition. Write in is possible, but not likely.

Besides, he lost by 10+%. Add to that those democrats who would not vote for Cantor, and there is no chance.
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I haven't done a lot of research on this race, but from what I know right now, my guess is that Cantor is a goner.

His departure certainly wouldn't help Boehner.
 
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ocean515 said:
shrubnose said:
No matter how many times you post your claim, the credibility of the statement will never improve. US History, does not support your claim. US history does support the rejection and defense against foreign invasion.

Since history is the only credible source here, then those who are encouraging this invasion will be removed from power, and those who are a part of it, will be dealt with. That is the only credible truth.
The rest is just so much hot air.
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That's just your opinion.

We'll see in thirty years (Well, maybe we won't see, but somebody will see.)
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MSNBC Has it all figured out... It's the red-neck, jew hating conservative crackers of the republican party:



The desperation and dishonesty of the liberals in the media has turned into a serious mental health issue.
 
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shrubnose said:
ocean515 said:
Based on U.S. Census Bureau numbers and current demographic trends.
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And a rather massive assumption based on agenda and bias. I'm thinking that's a poor basis for pointing 30 years down the road.

As I wrote, the history of the US is to reject and repel foreign invasion. I appreciate the history where you live does not share this past, so it is likely clouding how things are actually viewed here.
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mmi said:
I think you did a fine job expressing yer views. I'm a fairly partisan Democrat, but I occasionally vote for Republicans. I agree with what you've said about primaries. It's a complicated issue, but in the end I think the system needs to discourage people from voting "insincerely."
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States writing their own rules for who votes in the primary is the very essence of the 10th amendment, so a DEM would oppose that.
It is even more egregious when it involves Federal candidates from one region affecting those of another.

This Roberts Court has sided with these types of voter manipulations as per its VRA ruling.
Dems do a better job of this cross-over game here in Illinois.

A truly partisan Democrat would welcome a hard line by Republicans against immigration reform.
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People think this guy is elected.
Wait until he speaks and removes all doubt about immigration and other "Akin" beliefs.
It's strongly supported nationally and that support is likely to increase.
If the GOP can be identified with strict opposition to immigration reform, Democratic candidates will benefit.
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Koch bros, Priebus, establishment RINOs--everyone in politics is rocked by this upset and spinning away.
I tried FOX for a moment but had to flip right away--they're wall-to-wall Bergdahl, so to speak .
 
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When you get a moment, could one of you two sparring partners fix your damn quote.
ocean515 said:
And a rather massive assumption based on agenda and bias.
I'm thinking that's a poor basis for pointing 30 years down the road.
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The GOP isn't going anywhere.
They're locked into the House until 2042 if Dems don't win it in 2020, which writes new remaps.
With 2030 as another census mid-term disaster to go along with 1990 and 2010,
we're stuck with the TEAs and gridlock for the rest of my life.
As I wrote, the history of the US is to reject and repel foreign invasion.
I appreciate the history where you live does not share this past, so it is likely clouding how things are actually viewed here.
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Long time ocean--we had a lot of fun with the 2012 election at our old site didn't we--
mostly me getting beat up by all you cons that came over here to dp .
 
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NIMBY said:
When you get a moment, could one of you two sparring partners fix your damn quote.


The GOP isn't going anywhere.
They're locked into the House until 2042 if Dems don't win it in 2020, which writes new remaps.
With 2030 as another census mid-term disaster to go along with 1990 and 2010,
we're stuck with the TEAs and gridlock for the rest of my life.

Long time ocean--we had a lot of fun with the 2012 election at our old site didn't we--
mostly me getting beat up by all you cons that came over here to dp .
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Long time NIMBY. We are a tenacious lot aren't we? Anonymous opinions carrying the weight of the worlds future in the balance. Such egos.... :cool: :peace
 
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Travis007 said:
You are so out to lunch and you are a hyprocrite..

is that why Obama ordered Hillary to destroy Palin..as a women..
that was just uncovered THIS WEEK..

the IRS scandel proves otherwise

your posts are laughable nonsense..
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Why shouldn't the Obama campaign have gone on the attack against Palin? She's an idiot.

The IRS "scandal" has NOTHING to do with the topic.
 
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shrubnose said:
I haven't done a lot of research on this race, but from what I know right now, my guess is that Cantor is a goner.

His departure certainly wouldn't help Boehner.
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I think you are right. I think the Good Old Boy GOP establishment which has been Va politics for years is on its way out.

IMO, the real wake up call was missed in the state elections. The Good Ol' Boys left the Va voters with a choice between a crook and a crook. The other crook won, and brought the Lt Gov and AG with him. Cantor was/is part of the establishment. Like most of the country, Va is fed up with more of the same.
 
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