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House Majority Leader Cantor loses GOP primary to tea-party challenger[W:243:247:349]

Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

Cantor was the same shade of crap two years ago, and he carried that district 58-41.

Well, it goes to show that there's many a slip twixt a cup and a lip...right?

He was the same shade of crap before that too

but like an old late friend of mine use to say,

"a dog's gonna sit on a nail until he's tired of sitting on that nail"
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

If you didn't like Cantor... just wait. Another Ted Cruz just elected. The Tea Party in Congress has one response to anything... No. They don't have alternative ideas or stand for anything. All they do is stand against things.

This is a sad day for the GOP.

You know that Virginia is an Open Primary state where anyone, regardless of political affiliation, can vote in any primary? In other words, Democrats could have come out to vote against Cantor in the Republican Primary. That should not be legal. It has to be an infringement on the First Amendment Right of GOP voters that Democrats can vote in their primary, or vice versa. Hell, isn't that what the General Election is for?

And standing against what's going on in DC is exactly what the country needs.

If Brat does what he says he is going to do, I will congratulate him. However, I don't trust any college professor who once worked for a Democrat.
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

The should be a lesson to the Left about how powerful the Tea Party is. Don't ever say they are gone again. They just took down the next Speaker.
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

You mean the 'Dead' Tea Party?

The poor Leftists will now have to start their 'racist', 'terrorist', 'traitor' campaign again though, luckily, it's something they never tire of.
Well some poor leftists at least, not all lefties are guilty of that appellation.;) But yes, I did mean the "dead" Tea Party, in fact didn't I see a thread titled that somewhere here at DP yesterday? As always, eschew premature reports of "death" least you risk being reminded of one of Mark Twain's most famous quips.
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

I have got to be very honest with everyone by saying that I am really glad to see this Capital Obstructionist gone. He added little and stood in the way of much. He was a major hindrance to this White House, which extremists will congratulate him for. But, most importantly, he brought no creative problem solving ideas of his own. He was a Capital Hill Operative and nothing more.

??

A hindrance ?

No one is " hindering" this White House.

Honestly what a desperately dishonest statement.
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

Spineless is the right word, brings back memories of Trent Lott.

got no love for lot, but he got done dirty...
 
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If you didn't like Cantor... just wait. Another Ted Cruz just elected. The Tea Party in Congress has one response to anything... No. They don't have alternative ideas or stand for anything. All they do is stand against things.

This is a sad day for the GOP.

You know that Virginia is an Open Primary state where anyone, regardless of political affiliation, can vote in any primary? In other words, Democrats could have come out to vote against Cantor in the Republican Primary. That should not be legal. It has to be an infringement on the First Amendment Right of GOP voters that Democrats can vote in their primary, or vice versa. Hell, isn't that what the General Election is for?
Funny that was a GOP strategy in 2008. I think the whole process of the primary is stupid.

There is no infringement on rights, that is nonsense.
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

I voted for Sarvis, he is running for Senate this year against Warner and Gillispie. You all have Hunt down there running for Governor...correct?

Yep, he is currently at 7%. I have always wonder how good any Libertarian candidate down here would do if he actually had some funds to campaign with. Here is the latest poll.

SurveyUSA Election Poll #21322
 
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got no love for lot, but he got done dirty...

Yea, but that what happens to squishes. A man of courage would have stood up to that charge of racism and doubled down on his remarks. He had no intention of praising the past racism of Thurmond, he was wishing him a happy b-day by blowing a little smoke up his a**, big deal....
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

Another target for the Democrats is what that means. Depending on the level of nuttery of this particular candidate.

Problem with that is the Democrats didn't nominate a candidate to run in the general election so Brat it will be.
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

The should be a lesson to the Left about how powerful the Tea Party is.
Looks like its more of a lesson to the GOP mainstream.
Don't ever say they are gone again.
I've been planning on Childers beating the TEA-creep from Mississippi all along for the Senate.
They just took down the next Speaker.
Who exactly is "they"?
"They" are the GOP Rinos who didn't come out to vote.
That is the lesson for Dems and all political groups .
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

Problem with that is the Democrats didn't nominate a candidate to run in the general election so Brat it will be.

It's definitely a safe district -- Cantor never took less than 58% of the vote in the general. I think this was a combined Tea Party and Democratic (via the open primary) push to get rid of Cantor, whom neither voting bloc particularly liked.
 
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The should be a lesson to the Left about how powerful the Tea Party is. Don't ever say they are gone again. They just took down the next Speaker.

It would be a lesson to "the left" if Brat was running against someone from "the left." It SHOULD be a lesson to the GOP establishment.
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

Another target for the Democrats is what that means. Depending on the level of nuttery of this particular candidate.

And might be easier to beat in the general election.
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

Don't let the door hit ya where the lord split ya. Too bad Graham won.
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

Centrist upset at a Republican for standing in the way of the Obama demands. Amusing.

Once again, your assumptions stand in the way good vision. On the one hand, you are so blinded by right wing extremism that you can't see Cantor being gone as a good thing for the ENTIRE country -- not just right wing extremists. On the other hand, your hate for Obama, is palpable and misguided that you fail to give him credit for anything good that he's done over his tenure as president. Being blind on both counts is not "amusing," it is quite sad in fact.


Cantors loss is just the thing the Tea Party needed to get traction going in Va. I'm very happy to see this.

Extremism is the Tea Party banner. Find me a Tea Party member who knows truly cares about ALL Americans and I will show you an earth like planet in the habitable zone capable of supporting human life. You are not searching for the needle in the haystack, you are searching for the haystack itself. No extreme version of American life will ever pass the test of time, MrViccio.


Is this where the Republican Party is headed in 2016?


I told this forum back in 2000, that the republican party has just destroyed itself long-term and that it would fracture - this was before the emergence of the Tea Party. I have another thread where I said that if republicans failed to find their way to the middle of the road, that they would not see the White House again until 2024. They then lost the 2008 and 2012 presidential election. They are about to lose the 2016 presidential election cycle and the party has yet to heal itself by "leaning" towards the middle of the road, where most responsible American Citizens reside.

Why am I so hard on republicans? The had 20 of the past 34 years to set this nation on good footing and failed to do so. Period.


If you take a look at where this country has fallen down since the election of Bush 41, we've had nothing but perpetual wars for oil, a declining middle class (excepting the Clinton years where wages and middle class growth was actually in recovery), outsourcing of middle class jobs, the destruction of our manufacturing base, the exodus of corporate capital, the flight of foreign capital, a perpetually unstable dollar, an inherently unstable economic base, a new wave of increasing poverty (which began in earnest with Reagan), rising consumer prices, increased deficit spending, a degradation of public services and a ballistic rise in national debt (now approaching some $17 trillion). 20 years of trickle down failure, increasing corporate protections galore, neocon wars fought for oil that we did not own with millions of lives lost in the process and a busted economy as the proverbial cherry on top to show for it.

So, I'm only paying homage where homage is due. I'm calling a spade a spade. When you occupy the White House for 58.823% of the time since 1980, and we STILL don't have our act together, then I'm going to call your party on the carpet for it in the aggregate. Both Democrat Presidents were coming off the heels of a completely mismanaged domestic scene and both Democratic Presidents found a way to right the ship. The economy was stagnant at best when Clinton took office and eventually saw the largest economic improvement in world history - not just American history - which included a projected multi-hundred billion dollar surplus that was immediately spend down the toilet with the election of Bush 43. The economy was the absolute worst it had ever been since 1929/32 when Obama took office and eventually (slowly) it saw a recovery with rising employment (though no where near where it should be). However, this president had the honor of cleaning up the mess left behind by yet again, another failed republican president (two wars, a housing market in full implosion mode, skyrocketing foreclosures and an economic tsunami globally).

So, please forgive me for calling a spade a spade and laying blame where blame actually resides. Republicans have been at Executive helm longer. They've had periodic majorities in congress over the same time period. They had the political winds at their back and what did they do with it? They allowed Neoconservative infiltration that lead the nation straight into its "New Pearl Harbor," September 11th, 2001. We've been in FULL recovery mode ever since - struggling to be the nation that we should have been a very long time ago.

THAT is why I come down so hard on the republican party. To whom much is given, much is expected.

20 Year Republican Party Executive Report Card: C
20 Year Republican Party Congressional Report Card: D
14 Year Democrat Party Executive Report Card: B-
14 Year Democrat Party Congressional Report Card: D-


THAT is probably the absolutely truth of the matter at this point - like it or not. The reasoning for the B- on Executive for Democrats is that no one can deny the economic boom during the Clinton years. Many socioeconomic boats were lifted (if you wanted to lift it) during that cycle. I remember when Silicone Valley could not fill all the jobs they had, literally. I remember seeing empty office space, offices and floor space just waiting for employees to be hired but not enough candidates to fill all the positions. I was in some of those offices at the time and saw how bizarre it looked and how hopeful the leaders of companies were about filling its empty floor space.

During Obama's tenure, he faced enormous challenges on day one - unlike any president since FDR. Wars. Economic Armageddon at Home. Global Economic Crisis. A Government many people felt had lost completely control. The entire world sat on his shoulders for the first 2 years of his presidency and the entire world watched his every move. It was as epic display of leadership in a time of serious crisis, if the real truth be told. So, I score the Democrats higher on Executive leadership. Republicans would have scored higher for Reagan's work with Gorbachev in Eastern Europe, were it not for Bush 41's and Bush 43's epic failures in giving us wars for oil and setting the stage for 911 (most importantly) by acquiescing to neocon debauchery.
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

It's definitely a safe district -- Cantor never took less than 58% of the vote in the general. I think this was a combined Tea Party and Democratic (via the open primary) push to get rid of Cantor, whom neither voting bloc particularly liked.

They just mentioned on the Indepents that Cantor might be able to run in the general election as an independent.
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

Based on what info do you think the dem is a better candidate than the guy who just took out the majority leader with $200,000? Cantor spent 2.5 Mil., and lost this guy; he must have done something right, Right? Why don't you tell me what impresses you about this dem if you believe they will win in a strongly republican district.

The voters in Virginia seem to know him, and that's what counts..

this congressional district lost its influence in congress that in had with cantor.

my guess is cantor will do write in campaign.

this seat turns likely democrat.

foolish tea party people.
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

Not one of the professional prognosticators seen this coming.


Well, that is because the standing House Majority Leader hasn't lost a primary since 1899.
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

Problem with that is the Democrats didn't nominate a candidate to run in the general election so Brat it will be.

Not so. Democrats nominated another professor from Randolph Macon. You have until the polls close to make the nomination.
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

Once again, your assumptions stand in the way good vision. On the one hand, you are so blinded by right wing extremism that you can't see Cantor being gone as a good thing for the ENTIRE country -- not just right wing extremists. On the other hand, your hate for Obama, is palpable and misguided that you fail to give him credit for anything good that he's done over his tenure as president. Being blind on both counts is not "amusing," it is quite sad in fact.




Extremism is the Tea Party banner. Find me a Tea Party member who knows truly cares about ALL Americans and I will show you an earth like planet in the habitable zone capable of supporting human life. You are not searching for the needle in the haystack, you are searching for the haystack itself. No extreme version of American life will ever pass the test of time, MrViccio.


Is this where the Republican Party is headed in 2016?


I told this forum back in 2000, that the republican party has just destroyed itself long-term and that it would fracture - this was before the emergence of the Tea Party. I have another thread where I said that if republicans failed to find their way to the middle of the road, that they would not see the White House again until 2024. They then lost the 2008 and 2012 presidential election. They are about to lose the 2016 presidential election cycle and the party has yet to heal itself by "leaning" towards the middle of the road, where most responsible American Citizens reside.

Why am I so hard on republicans? The had 20 of the past 34 years to set this nation on good footing and failed to do so. Period.


If you take a look at where this country has fallen down since the election of Bush 41, we've had nothing but perpetual wars for oil, a declining middle class (excepting the Clinton years where wages and middle class growth was actually in recovery), outsourcing of middle class jobs, the destruction of our manufacturing base, the exodus of corporate capital, the flight of foreign capital, a perpetually unstable dollar, an inherently unstable economic base, a new wave of increasing poverty (which began in earnest with Reagan), rising consumer prices, increased deficit spending, a degradation of public services and a ballistic rise in national debt (now approaching some $17 trillion). 20 years of trickle down failure, increasing corporate protections galore, neocon wars fought for oil that we did not own with millions of lives lost in the process and a busted economy as the proverbial cherry on top to show for it.

So, I'm only paying homage where homage is due. I'm calling a spade a spade. When you occupy the White House for 58.823% of the time since 1980, and we STILL don't have our act together, then I'm going to call your party on the carpet for it in the aggregate. Both Democrat Presidents were coming off the heels of a completely mismanaged domestic scene and both Democratic Presidents found a way to right the ship. The economy was stagnant at best when Clinton took office and eventually saw the largest economic improvement in world history - not just American history - which included a projected multi-hundred billion dollar surplus that was immediately spend down the toilet with the election of Bush 43. The economy was the absolute worst it had ever been since 1929/32 when Obama took office and eventually (slowly) it saw a recovery with rising employment (though no where near where it should be). However, this president had the honor of cleaning up the mess left behind by yet again, another failed republican president (two wars, a housing market in full implosion mode, skyrocketing foreclosures and an economic tsunami globally).

So, please forgive me for calling a spade a spade and laying blame where blame actually resides. Republicans have been at Executive helm longer. They've had periodic majorities in congress over the same time period. They had the political winds at their back and what did they do with it? They allowed Neoconservative infiltration that lead the nation straight into its "New Pearl Harbor," September 11th, 2001. We've been in FULL recovery mode ever since - struggling to be the nation that we should have been a very long time ago.

THAT is why I come down so hard on the republican party. To whom much is given, much is expected.

20 Year Republican Party Executive Report Card: C
20 Year Republican Party Congressional Report Card: D
14 Year Democrat Party Executive Report Card: B-
14 Year Democrat Party Congressional Report Card: D-


THAT is probably the absolutely truth of the matter at this point - like it or not. The reasoning for the B- on Executive for Democrats is that no one can deny the economic boom during the Clinton years. Many socioeconomic boats were lifted (if you wanted to lift it) during that cycle. I remember when Silicone Valley could not fill all the jobs they had, literally. I remember seeing empty office space, offices and floor space just waiting for employees to be hired but not enough candidates to fill all the positions. I was in some of those offices at the time and saw how bizarre it looked and how hopeful the leaders of companies were about filling its empty floor space.

During Obama's tenure, he faced enormous challenges on day one - unlike any president since FDR. Wars. Economic Armageddon at Home. Global Economic Crisis. A Government many people felt had lost completely control. The entire world sat on his shoulders for the first 2 years of his presidency and the entire world watched his every move. It was as epic display of leadership in a time of serious crisis, if the real truth be told. So, I score the Democrats higher on Executive leadership. Republicans would have scored higher for Reagan's work with Gorbachev in Eastern Europe, were it not for Bush 41's and Bush 43's epic failures in giving us wars for oil and setting the stage for 911 (most importantly) by acquiescing to neocon debauchery.

Are you still a truther or did you finally come to your senses?
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

Well, that is because the standing House Majority Leader hasn't lost a primary since 1899.

Makes sense to me, that race probably was never polled. Everyone just assumed in was in the bag.
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

Virginia has open primaries. Rasmussen had Cantor with a 34-point lead.

My guess: Democrats turned out in droves to vote for the other guy.

I have a hard time believing the Democrats turned out enough voters for an opposing party primary to engineer a 45 pt swing.
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

this congressional district lost its influence in congress that in had with cantor.

my guess is cantor will do write in campaign.

this seat turns likely democrat.

foolish tea party people.

Repeating yourself doesn't clarify your position. What do you base this baseless assumption on?
 
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