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House Majority Leader Cantor loses GOP primary to tea-party challenger[W:243:247:349]

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Beaudreaux said:
If you didn't like Cantor... just wait. Another Ted Cruz just elected. The Tea Party in Congress has one response to anything... No. They don't have alternative ideas or stand for anything. All they do is stand against things.

This is a sad day for the GOP.

You know that Virginia is an Open Primary state where anyone, regardless of political affiliation, can vote in any primary? In other words, Democrats could have come out to vote against Cantor in the Republican Primary. That should not be legal. It has to be an infringement on the First Amendment Right of GOP voters that Democrats can vote in their primary, or vice versa. Hell, isn't that what the General Election is for?
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VA is an open primary state, I would be curious how many Dems voted for him. I am sure some did. As for Dems voting in in GOP primaries, Umm no that is not a 1st amendment issue.
 
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mtm1963 said:
those in this VA district are naive DA's. you just lost your influence in congress. no one will listen to this guy!!

just plain stupid by the voters.
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Not at all. When a party leader is nothing more than a guy who tries to walk in the middle of the road pleasing everyone without any guiding principals, he deserves to get bounced. Cantor seemed a little slow and more than willing to do as he was told, no leadership qualities at all.
 
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Juanita said:
They said that turnout was very low..
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One link stated it was higher in 2012?!?!. Has anyone seen actual numbers?

Also I don't think the winner can count on all the Cantor voters going for him.

MSNBC is saying turn out was high?!?!
 
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Beaudreaux said:
If you didn't like Cantor... just wait. Another Ted Cruz just elected. The Tea Party in Congress has one response to anything... No. They don't have alternative ideas or stand for anything. All they do is stand against things.

This is a sad day for the GOP.

You know that Virginia is an Open Primary state where anyone, regardless of political affiliation, can vote in any primary? In other words, Democrats could have come out to vote against Cantor in the Republican Primary. That should not be legal. It has to be an infringement on the First Amendment Right of GOP voters that Democrats can vote in their primary, or vice versa. Hell, isn't that what the General Election is for?
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Same way things work in my state. I actually like it because if I had to register with a party, I'd probably register as a democrat. Problem is most races I vote in I know the GOP candidate will win the general election, and there is no real point voting in the democratic primary other than deciding which person will lose by 40 points. So I often vote in the GOP primary and pick the candidate there that I prefer.

In a way, though, I do agree that party members should elect party candidates.
 
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iacardsfan said:
There are open primaries. Im guessing Brat is going to cruise to victory. The 7th generally doesn't even have a candidate against Cantor. I think the Libertarian will pose a bigger problem then the Democrats.
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Interesting, Sarvis ended up with about 7% of the vote up there last year. That is about the same as some Libertarian candidates down here in Georgia get at times.
 
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Perotista said:
Interesting, Sarvis ended up with about 7% of the vote up there last year. That is about the same as some Libertarian candidates down here in Georgia get at times.
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I voted for Sarvis, he is running for Senate this year against Warner and Gillispie. You all have Hunt down there running for Governor...correct?
 
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So far, all I've seen is low voter turn out, or Dems put in the fix -- how about people are tired of the Establishment and want something different?

Cantor was crap. Pure, unadulterated crap. He was spineless as only the worst Democrats know how to be. He had no leadership qualities and his ideas were dumb as doo doo.

THAT is why he lost...
 
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Deuce said:
Another target for the Democrats is what that means. Depending on the level of nuttery of this particular candidate.
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Like the Democrats don't have enough nuttery of their own. Like Obama and clan has proved to be a complete failure. Talk about idiots.
 
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johndylan1 said:
Not at all. When a party leader is nothing more than a guy who tries to walk in the middle of the road pleasing everyone without any guiding principals, he deserves to get bounced. Cantor seemed a little slow and more than willing to do as he was told, no leadership qualities at all.
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and what do you think the voters are getting with this person who NO ONE has ever heard of on the republicans side, much less the public in general?

a democratic win in november!!
 
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ChezC3 said:
So far, all I've seen is low voter turn out, or Dems put in the fix -- how about people are tired of the Establishment and want something different?

Cantor was crap. Pure, unadulterated crap. He was spineless as only the worst Democrats know how to be. He had no leadership qualities and his ideas were dumb as doo doo.

THAT is why he lost...
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No leadership qualities, I put Obama the worst president ever with no leadership qualities and speaking of dumb as doo doo ideas, but that is for another thread.
 
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ChezC3 said:
So far, all I've seen is low voter turn out, or Dems put in the fix -- how about people are tired of the Establishment and want something different?

Cantor was crap. Pure, unadulterated crap. He was spineless as only the worst Democrats know how to be. He had no leadership qualities and his ideas were dumb as doo doo.

THAT is why he lost...
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Cantor was the same shade of crap two years ago, and he carried that district 58-41.
 
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Born Free said:
No leadership qualities, I put Obama the worst president ever with no leadership qualities and speaking of dumb as doo doo ideas, but that is for another thread.
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Two peas in a pod they were...
 
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MrVicchio said:
It was pretty deep thrashing of Cantor. I think the message to the GOP is "Don't you DARE back Amnesty, enforce the laws and quit trying to sell out for votes to illegals".
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Cantor was also perceived as a deal cutter on Obamacare.

Bye Bye, and good riddance.
 
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voyager1 said:
One link stated it was higher in 2012?!?!. Has anyone seen actual numbers?

Also I don't think the winner can count on all the Cantor voters going for him.

MSNBC is saying turn out was high?!?!
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I haven't.. But here is CNN"s link:

With 97% of precincts reporting from the Richmond-area district, Cantor trailed Dave Brat 56% to 44%, according to the Virginia Secretary of State's website. Turnout was low.
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So, I have no clue...
 
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So we got rid of Cantor, but we kept Grahamnesty.

Well, I guess we can't win em all.
 
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mtm1963 said:
and what do you think the voters are getting with this person who NO ONE has ever heard of on the republicans side, much less the public in general?

a democratic win in november!!
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Based on what info do you think the dem is a better candidate than the guy who just took out the majority leader with $200,000? Cantor spent 2.5 Mil., and lost this guy; he must have done something right, Right? Why don't you tell me what impresses you about this dem if you believe they will win in a strongly republican district.
 
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PW4000 said:
CNN reports now that Eric Cantor, Republican top-liner is gone. He was beaten by a Tea Party candidate. What does this say about the rest of the down-stream Republican Ticket in 2016, if Cantor, can't even hold on to his seat - which I am certain he thought he would/could retain?

Eric Cantor Dusted in Virginia.



"We've got some stuff falling. A little bit of stuff falling."

Gee. They are even feeling this in Los Angeles.
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Wow! They are feeling this one all over the place, hell DC probably just shook to its roots! Now here is an interesting thought, Cantor's opponent is a Tea Party candidate. The common thinking in the air right now is that the Tea Party would be underperforming compared to years past. Cantor's defeat hands the Tea Party if not their largest, one of their largest victories ever. I will admit, I like it when I see entrenched incumbents unseated by underfunded unknowns. Which makes it harder for the 'establishment' to get things done, which I admit I also like. Interesting times ahead. ;)
 
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mtm1963 said:
and what do you think the voters are getting with this person who NO ONE has ever heard of on the republicans side, much less the public in general?

a democratic win in november!!
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The voters in Virginia seem to know him, and that's what counts..
 
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Cooter Has A Plan To Unseat Eric Cantor. It's So Crazy It Just Might Work.

Former congressman Ben Jones (D-Ga.), better known as "Cooter" from Dukes of Hazzard, has a plan to knock Eric Cantor out of the House. He's urging his fellow Democrats to cross over and vote for a tea party-backed candidate in Virginia's primary election.

Cooter, who ran against Cantor in 2002, has penned an open letter calling upon Democrats in his former Virginia district to vote in the open primary next Tuesday for tea party opponent Dave Brat in order to defeat U.S. House Majority Leader Cantor.

Crossing party lines to vote in an open primary has a long tradition in the solidly one-party South, Cooter argues in his letter. "y voting for David Brat in the Seventh District Republican primary, we Democrats, independents, and Libertarians can make a big difference in American politics," he argues. "It is your right to cast that vote. It is an 'open' primary and it doesn’t preclude anyone from voting anyway they wish in November. It may be the only way to empower those who want to make a statement about the dysfunctional Congress and 'politics as usual.'"
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ChezC3 said:
So far, all I've seen is low voter turn out, or Dems put in the fix -- how about people are tired of the Establishment and want something different?

Cantor was crap. Pure, unadulterated crap. He was spineless as only the worst Democrats know how to be. He had no leadership qualities and his ideas were dumb as doo doo.

THAT is why he lost...
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Spineless is the right word, brings back memories of Trent Lott.
 
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Filthy McNasty said:
Wow! They are feeling this one all over the place, hell DC probably just shook to its roots! No here is an interesting point, Cantor's opponent in a Tea Party candidate. The common thinking in the air this year is that the Tea Party would be underperformed compared to years past. Cantor's defeat hands the Tea Party if not their largest, one of their largest victories ever. Interesting times ahead. ;)
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You mean the 'Dead' Tea Party?

The poor Leftists will now have to start their 'racist', 'terrorist', 'traitor' campaign again though, luckily, it's something they never tire of.
 
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Beaudreaux said:
If you didn't like Cantor... just wait. Another Ted Cruz just elected. The Tea Party in Congress has one response to anything... No. They don't have alternative ideas or stand for anything. All they do is stand against things.

This is a sad day for the GOP.

You know that Virginia is an Open Primary state where anyone, regardless of political affiliation, can vote in any primary? In other words, Democrats could have come out to vote against Cantor in the Republican Primary. That should not be legal. It has to be an infringement on the First Amendment Right of GOP voters that Democrats can vote in their primary, or vice versa. Hell, isn't that what the General Election is for?
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Good. I like No. Its a fine word and the most powerful. The more its said in Washington the better.
 
Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

Beaudreaux said:
If you didn't like Cantor... just wait. Another Ted Cruz just elected. The Tea Party in Congress has one response to anything... No. They don't have alternative ideas or stand for anything. All they do is stand against things.

This is a sad day for the GOP.

You know that Virginia is an Open Primary state where anyone, regardless of political affiliation, can vote in any primary? In other words, Democrats could have come out to vote against Cantor in the Republican Primary. That should not be legal. It has to be an infringement on the First Amendment Right of GOP voters that Democrats can vote in their primary, or vice versa. Hell, isn't that what the General Election is for?
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Nobody was complaining about it in California. Its how Kashcari got the GOP nod. to run against Brown.
 
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