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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Most laws already are heavily based on the Christian/Judeo religion.
    Not so sure I buy that. And in any case it's not the same thing as churches writing the laws.

    It's alread law that women get equal pay for equal work, though apparently this isn't the case in the Obama White House.
    Lily Ledbetter Act notwithstanding of course

    No one is obstructing their 'reproductive' rights if they want to reproduce. What many are saying is that abortion is a very bad thing. If everyone wanted to end babies lives the world would not necessarily be a better place.

    For starters.
    "If they want to reproduce?"
    What does that mean?

    If you want to have a baby, you go right ahead, we won't stop you?
    Nice...LOL, thanks for reassuring me on that.

    I say abortion is a very bad thing, in almost any circumstance, except in those circumstances where almost anything else is worse, and I am more than happy
    to be as open minded as possible about compromising on what defines "worse" because again, as I said, I say that abortion IS a very bad thing.
    If I didn't respond to your diatribe, it's possible you may have
    engaged in revisionism or broad sweeping generalizations.
    I don't have time for either, and you're probably on my IGNORE list.

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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Most laws already are heavily based on the Christian/Judeo religion.

    It's alread law that women get equal pay for equal work, though apparently this isn't the case in the Obama White House.

    No one is obstructing their 'reproductive' rights if they want to reproduce. What many are saying is that abortion is a very bad thing. If everyone wanted to end babies lives the world would not necessarily be a better place.

    For starters.

    No, it's not law everywhere that women receive equal pay. Romney ignored it, refused to pass it in MA, and it still is not passed in that state, for example. (Maybe it has passed now, not sure)

    ANd the reproductive rights issue is not just about abortion but your opinion is noted and no one is infringing on anyone's rights with the current status of abortion.


    And none of our laws (that I can think of except for old stuff left on the books) are based exclusively on religion...they still need to be supported by or not infringe on the basic rights in the Constitution. Of course there's a great deal of overlap....which is why religious people have felt so 'comfortable' for so long.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    I'm just going to ignore the little "bon mot" about "the libruls" and plod firmly along with the subject instead.
    It's spelled and pronounced 'liberal'.
    Here's this supposedly highly educated professor, expecting us to believe that if we all just group hug and embrace his Christian pop-psy pablums,
    no one will do anything wrong anymore and we won't need government.
    He never mentioned anything about a 'group hug". If you are going to comment on what the man has to say then quote him correctly and don't try to interpret it on your own.

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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    Not so sure I buy that. And in any case it's not the same thing as churches writing the laws.
    Whether you buy it or not is beside the point. Do you know how the country arrived at the laws it has?

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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    No, it's not law everywhere that women receive equal pay. Romney ignored it, refused to pass it in MA, and it still is not passed in that state, for example. (Maybe it has passed now, not sure)
    The federal law was passed in 1963.Equal Pay Act of 1963 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    ANd the reproductive rights issue is not just about abortion but your opinion is noted and no one is infringing on anyone's rights with the current status of abortion.
    You know what reproduction, or reproducing, means, right? No one is stopping you from reproducing, i.e. having a baby or babies.You are repeating words from slogans which have no real meaning without thinking it through.
    And none of our laws (that I can think of except for old stuff left on the books) are based exclusively on religion...they still need to be supported by or not infringe on the basic rights in the Constitution. Of course there's a great deal of overlap....which is why religious people have felt so 'comfortable' for so long.
    No, they are not based exclusively on religion, at least not so much anymore, as there are new laws being introduced almost every day and religious influence has dropped. But there is no doubt that Christianity influenced laws and human rights throughout the western democracies and I'm somewhat surprised that this history has not been taught in the schools, given its importance.

    Do you feel that the laws were more influenced by atheists or agnostics?

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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's spelled and pronounced 'liberal'.
    I was already aware of that, which is why I put it in quote marks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He never mentioned anything about a 'group hug". If you are going to comment on what the man has to say then quote him correctly and don't try to interpret it on your own.
    No he didn't. I did, and I am not quoting him. I had already done that further up the page.
    I think I'll just ignore your warning and do as I like as far as interpretation, thank you.
    That's why it's known as a comment. Comments and quotes are two different things.
    I never extended the invitation to you to "grade my paper", so please, go back to being the hall monitor
    for the kiddies and let the grownups talk amongst themselves.
    If I didn't respond to your diatribe, it's possible you may have
    engaged in revisionism or broad sweeping generalizations.
    I don't have time for either, and you're probably on my IGNORE list.

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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Yup, equal rights is definitely more of a concern for Democrats.
    Well, then you should try to come up with an example of that.
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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Whether you buy it or not is beside the point. Do you know how the country arrived at the laws it has?
    Yes, but again, this gentleman, Mr. Brat, seems to be laboring under the impression that the church should be directly involved in writing the law and directly involved in controlling the economy, based on his writings.
    And since by the tone of your posts it is evident that you take enjoyment in wagging your finger and talking down to people, I'll indulge in a little of the same:
    I suggest that you abandon your Christian orthodoxy for rationalism and become an advocate of secular government, because we will never become a theocracy.
    Again, repeating for all needing:
    This is not nor has it ever been a theocracy, nor shall it ever be one.

    When a church becomes directly involved in the writing of the law, then the law of the church becomes the law of the land, which is the textbook definition of a theocracy.
    Would you like for me to dredge up the actual PAGE in the dictionary where it is defined or will you accept my word on that?

    Either way, the United States of America is in no sense "founded upon the Christian religion". It is a secular government.
    If I didn't respond to your diatribe, it's possible you may have
    engaged in revisionism or broad sweeping generalizations.
    I don't have time for either, and you're probably on my IGNORE list.

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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Well, then you should try to come up with an example of that.
    An unrealistic and unfair challenge. You're forcing them to face reality, which is their weakest area.

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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    Yes, but again, this gentleman, Mr. Brat, seems to be laboring under the impression that the church should be directly involved in writing the law and directly involved in controlling the economy, based on his writings.
    Seems to be? You're guessing again at what he has to say?
    And since by the tone of your posts it is evident that you take enjoyment in wagging your finger and talking down to people, I'll indulge in a little of the same:
    It is impossible to discuss issues with leftists without talking down to them. They're juvenile.
    I suggest that you abandon your Christian orthodoxy for rationalism and become an advocate of secular government, because we will never become a theocracy.
    Again, repeating for all needing:
    Another example. I'm not even Christian!
    This is not nor has it ever been a theocracy, nor shall it ever be one.
    I see you've done your homework.
    When a church becomes directly involved in the writing of the law, then the law of the church becomes the law of the land, which is the textbook definition of a theocracy.
    Would you like for me to dredge up the actual PAGE in the dictionary where it is defined or will you accept my word on that?
    You're guessing at what was being said again.
    Either way, the United States of America is in no sense "founded upon the Christian religion". It is a secular government.
    Who are you quoting here?

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