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    Re: House Majority Leader Eric Cantor loses GOP primary to tea-party challenger[W:243

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    CNN reports now that Eric Cantor, Republican top-liner is gone. He was beaten by a Tea Party candidate. What does this say about the rest of the down-stream Republican Ticket in 2016, if Cantor, can't even hold on to his seat - which I am certain he thought he would/could retain?

    "We've got some stuff falling. A little bit of stuff falling."

    Gee. They are even feeling this in Los Angeles.
    This must have a whole lot of politicians on both sides of the aisle quaking in their boots. About damned time.

    I hope this gets lots of press. This editorial describes an arrogant man surrounded by arrogant staff who decided to focus their legislative prowess on running for Speaker of the House instead of their constituents.

    Cantor's $4 million campaign spend compared to his opponent's $122,000 spend. Just imagine. An incumbent beaten by a $122,000 man. A man who favored amnesty against a virtual nobody who was against it.

    Perhaps there is hope.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/...y-cantor-lost/

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    Re: House Majority Leader Eric Cantor loses GOP primary to tea-party challenger[W:243

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This must have a whole lot of politicians on both sides of the aisle quaking in their boots. About damned time.

    I hope this gets lots of press. This editorial describes an arrogant man surrounded by arrogant staff who decided to focus their legislative prowess on running for Speaker of the House instead of their constituents.

    Cantor's $4 million campaign spend compared to his opponent's $122,000 spend. Just imagine. An incumbent beaten by a $122,000 man. A man who favored amnesty against a virtual nobody who was against it.

    Perhaps there is hope.

    Why Cantor lost | Fox News
    The people are better represented when there is solid competition. I always thought it was dangerous for a politician to take his post for granted. It just seemed contrary to the democratic process. Eric Canter can reclaim his seat in 2016 but first he has to humble himself and appeal to the people.

    Sometimes you hate to see the good ones go but competitive elections is a good sign that the will of the people isn't going to be ignored as much. I see this as a positive thing even if it causes negative results in the short run. I'm not saying that it will but if it does that is a small price to pay for a properly functioning democracy.

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    Re: House Majority Leader Eric Cantor loses GOP primary to tea-party challenger[W...

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    RCP has him at this today:

    RCP Average 5/29 - 6/9 -- 43.0 52.9 -9.9

    RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Obama Job Approval

    If we didn't learn anything from the Romney/Obama polls, we better have learned it from the Cantor/Brat polls, which had Cantor ahead by something like 40 points.
    The Romney and Cantor polls were internal polls. As I said in the other thread, the GOP has a serious data problem. The national polls had Obama ahead by, basically, exactly what he won by.
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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    So much for the Tea Party being dead.

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    Re: House Majority Leader Eric Cantor loses GOP primary to tea-party challenger[W:243

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    The people are better represented when there is solid competition. I always thought it was dangerous for a politician to take his post for granted. It just seemed contrary to the democratic process. Eric Canter can reclaim his seat in 2016 but first he has to humble himself and appeal to the people.

    Sometimes you hate to see the good ones go
    but competitive elections is a good sign that the will of the people isn't going to be ignored as much. I see this as a positive thing even if it causes negative results in the short run. I'm not saying that it will but if it does that is a small price to pay for a properly functioning democracy.
    Cantor was NOT one of the good ones.
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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Work with Boehner and Obama? You mean like the lame duck session in December of 2010 where both sides gave and took. The repeal of DADT, the approval of START and the extension of the Bush Tax Cuts. I really doubt it. I have been concentrating on the seats in the senate that might switch. Mississippi isn't going to switch no matter who the Republican nominee is. If whoever is the Dem nominee can get within single digits, then I will start paying attention. If the race was considered safe, I really haven't looked at them.

    This is June, once the primaries are over, I am sure foot in mouth disease will strike. There are some Republicans that can't help themselves. It seems to me the establishment Republicans worry and want to win election and are not so pure ideological drive. The Tea Party wants pure ideological candidates and are not that interested in winning. By that I mean the Tea Party are very happy to beat a more moderate, less ideological pure candidate in the Republican primaries even if they know that candidate has no chance of winning in the fall and guarentees the seat will go to the Democrats. Of course in some states and in some districts, the ideological will win in the fall with VA-7 and Mississippi being prime examples. But not in places like Indiana, Missouri or even perhaps Georgia.
    If the Tea Party really thinks the way they seem to, it's baffling to me. That's akin to winning a battle but losing the war, because it could win a seat for a Democrat that theoretically stands for everything they claim they are against! Is that possible? Weird political thinking on their part, if true.

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    Re: House Majority Leader Eric Cantor loses GOP primary to tea-party challenger[W...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The Romney and Cantor polls were internal polls. As I said in the other thread, the GOP has a serious data problem. The national polls had Obama ahead by, basically, exactly what he won by.
    Gallup had Romney winning. That wasn't an internal poll.

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    Re: House Majority Leader Eric Cantor loses GOP primary to tea-party challenger[W...

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Gallup had Romney winning. That wasn't an internal poll.
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    Re: House Majority Leader Eric Cantor loses GOP primary to tea-party challenger[W:243

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This must have a whole lot of politicians on both sides of the aisle quaking in their boots. About damned time.

    I hope this gets lots of press. This editorial describes an arrogant man surrounded by arrogant staff who decided to focus their legislative prowess on running for Speaker of the House instead of their constituents.

    Cantor's $4 million campaign spend compared to his opponent's $122,000 spend. Just imagine. An incumbent beaten by a $122,000 man. A man who favored amnesty against a virtual nobody who was against it.

    Perhaps there is hope.

    Why Cantor lost | Fox News
    Even though 122k is alot of money, its nice to see that a the "little guy" actually can win.

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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    If the Tea Party really thinks the way they seem to, it's baffling to me. That's akin to winning a battle but losing the war, because it could win a seat for a Democrat that theoretically stands for everything they claim they are against! Is that possible? Weird political thinking on their part, if true.

    Good morning, Pero.
    Not really. Not in their minds. But keep in mind what I said earlier was more of a blanket statement, it doesn't apply to all Tea party folks. The idea is to cleanse the party first and if by doing so means Democrats get elected in the fall, so be it. Aiken, Mourdock, Angle, O'Donnell are prime examples of this. None could win in November, but they could keep a more moderate Republican from winning in November and that was a victory for them. They want to keep any RINO from winning, their term. This is where the Democrats have the huge advantage, they are more interested in winning elections and ideology pure candidates. The Tea Party only wants ideological pure candidates even if they can't win in November.

    But in certain districts and states, the tea party is very popular, just not across the country as a whole.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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