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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Most of the bitching about the Tea Party on this website has come from leftwingers like you. The GOP has plenty to learn about how out of touch they are with rightwing America, and it looks like Lesson #1 came last night.
    This is absolutely right.

    The lesson here is very simple and it's very simple in all the Tea Party primaries - if you don't listen to the people, if you don't listen to your constituents, if you spend all your time in Washington and you become more concerned with Washington than you are with the people who voted for you, you risk that those people who voted for you will look for someone else who'll listen to them.

    This primary beat down was entirely, 100%, about immigration reform and Cantor's constituents didn't like where he was trying to take it.

    I fully respect an electorate that doesn't go along to get along and doesn't reward broken promises simply because the guy who broke the promise has a great chance of being reelected. If you keep ignoring and/or rewarding politicians who are ignoring you, you deserve to be ignored.
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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    This primary has nothing to do with the "left."
    But my statement about the Tea Party does.
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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Cantor deserved this for obstructing the Presidency since election night 2008.
    And the one issue Cantor wasn't a TEA-loon on, he got a huge DOSE of GOP-demonization at the local level.

    Cantor waffled on immigration, trying to please all factions of the GOP.
    We all know that is impossible.
    Obstructing Obama is a positive. That man is a disaster.
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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Wow commentators on the news last night were falling all over themselves over the outcome of this race. Some had that deer in the headlight look to them. What I find so amazing about Brat's win is he had very little funding. Cantor had 5 million in his coffers. Guess it is true, money can't buy you love. Another thing I learned is none of the national tea party groups were campaigning for Brat. If they had been, he would have had a whole lot more money pouring in from out of state. The Tea Party organizations that backed Brat were grassroots local folks. But what Brat did have were the microphones of Laura Ingram who campaigned for Brat, Levin, Hannity, Coulter, Palin, and Limbaugh who used the airwaves or the written media to promote Brat. Brat is another Tea party backed academia candidate to win this primary season. The other one was in Nebraska. Brat is an economics professor and though immigration was a big issue, the stagnant economy, over-bloated government, out of control spending was also a big part of his message

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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Wow commentators on the news last night were falling all over themselves over the outcome of this race. Some had that deer in the headlight look to them. What I find so amazing about Brat's win is he had very little funding. Cantor had 5 million in his coffers. Guess it is true, money can't buy you love. Another thing I learned is none of the national tea party groups were campaigning for Brat. If they had been, he would have had a whole lot more money pouring in from out of state. The Tea Party organizations that backed Brat were grassroots local folks. But what Brat did have were the microphones of Laura Ingram who campaigned for Brat, Levin, Hannity, Coulter, Palin, and Limbaugh who used the airwaves or the written media to promote Brat. Brat is another Tea party backed academia candidate to win this primary season. The other one was in Nebraska. Brat is an economics professor and though immigration was a big issue, the stagnant economy, over-bloated government, out of control spending was also a big part of his message
    As I read, what I find is the Cantor took the vote for granted. This was a creation of the right wing noise machine. Cantor was looking at a bigger chair and forgot you have to win your own election. This is an angry voter base who saw their guy forgetting about them. Brat will do one of two things, he will become articulate and sound like a candidate who has an agenda (being anti-establishment and anti-Obama is not an agenda) or he will say something remarkably stupid and become the next insurgent candidate to become a suicide bomber.

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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    As I read, what I find is the Cantor took the vote for granted. This was a creation of the right wing noise machine. Cantor was looking at a bigger chair and forgot you have to win your own election. This is an angry voter base who saw their guy forgetting about them. Brat will do one of two things, he will become articulate and sound like a candidate who has an agenda (being anti-establishment and anti-Obama is not an agenda) or he will say something remarkably stupid and become the next insurgent candidate to become a suicide bomber.
    To be at odds with Obama's agenda is what the majority are looking for in a candidate. The last polling data I reviewed has Obama's approval rating at 38%. The gap between Cantor and Brat was significant which tells me there must have been a real unity between Republicans and Independents. You are entitled to your opinion, but this fiscal conservative who just made history and did it on a shoestring budget must be saying things a lot of folks wanted to hear.

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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    To be at odds with Obama's agenda is what the majority are looking for in a candidate. The last polling data I reviewed has Obama's approval rating at 38%. The gap between Cantor and Brat was significant which tells me there must have been a real unity between Republicans and Independents. You are entitled to your opinion, but this fiscal conservative who just made history and did it on a shoestring budget must be saying things a lot of folks wanted to hear.
    except Cantor wasn't even in his district yesterday. But this another example of a right winger being painted as a liberal by the right wing noise machine because they aren't crazy. Cantor never explained himself to people and they were angry. This is not the first time someone lost touch with their district but it is a big deal as the GOP just lost one of their best fighters in Washington. What will be funny is if now the establishment attacks these guys (because they couldn't stop people like Lindsay Graham). It will be fun watching the GOP eat their own.

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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    I'm actually okay with Cantor losing, although I liked him somewhat. It gives me some hope.

    1. We need outsiders in Washington right now, desperately
    2. It shows that grass roots can beat establishment, something else we need desperately right now
    3. It shows that you can spend less on your campaign than your opponent can on steak, and still win
    4. A shakeup was needed in the GOP, and I'm fine with sacrificing Cantor
    5. It will diminish Boehner somewhat, and that's something both Washington & the GOP need

    That said, I predict Cantor will be back in the races soon in some capacity - rechallenging for his current job, governor, senator, something.

    Now I have to learn something about this guy who won. All I know is that he's a professor at Randolph-Macon and he spent less on his campaign that Cantor's campaign spent on steak.

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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    This is absolutely right.

    The lesson here is very simple and it's very simple in all the Tea Party primaries - if you don't listen to the people, if you don't listen to your constituents, if you spend all your time in Washington and you become more concerned with Washington than you are with the people who voted for you, you risk that those people who voted for you will look for someone else who'll listen to them.

    This primary beat down was entirely, 100%, about immigration reform and Cantor's constituents didn't like where he was trying to take it.

    I fully respect an electorate that doesn't go along to get along and doesn't reward broken promises simply because the guy who broke the promise has a great chance of being reelected. If you keep ignoring and/or rewarding politicians who are ignoring you, you deserve to be ignored.
    Well said, CJ. For a Canucklehead , you seem to understand the way things work and SHOULD work better than most Americans!

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    Re: Eric Cantor is Gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    except Cantor wasn't even in his district yesterday. But this another example of a right winger being painted as a liberal by the right wing noise machine because they aren't crazy. Cantor never explained himself to people and they were angry. This is not the first time someone lost touch with their district but it is a big deal as the GOP just lost one of their best fighters in Washington. What will be funny is if now the establishment attacks these guys (because they couldn't stop people like Lindsay Graham). It will be fun watching the GOP eat their own.
    I think you are missing the major points of what just happened last night. Corporatism just took a huge blow as it has been the U.S. Chamber of Commerce who have been lobbying Republicans for amnesty of illegals........ cheap labor. Cantor, Boehner, Ryan and McCarthy have all been carrying the water to push for amnesty. What is at the heart of the split in the Republican party is the corporatist Republican establishment versus the Tea Party capitalists. Tea Party capitalists had a huge victory last night and no doubt will have a rippling effect throughout the Republican establishment.

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