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    Big Loss of Teachers Union in California

    Public school teachers should not be permitted to unionize in the first place, unless the taxpayers of each district get a direct vote on every union contract.

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    Re: Big Loss of Teachers Union in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    education shouldnt be a part of labor market
    Yes it should.Teachers should be hired and fired just like anyone else in the labor market is. If they **** up then they should fired just like anyone else in the labor market is.If they excel at their job then they should be rewarded and or promoted just alike anyone else in the labor market is. Teachers are no more and no less sacred than any other employee in the labor market is. The education of our children is vastly way more important than the job security of any teacher.
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    Re: Big Loss of Teachers Union in California

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Yes it should.Teachers should be hired and fired just like anyone else in the labor market is. If they **** up then they should fired just like anyone else in the labor market is.If they excel at their job then they should be rewarded and or promoted just alike anyone else in the labor market is. Teachers are no more and no less sacred than any other employee in the labor market is. The education of our children is vastly way more important than the job security of any teacher.
    yes thats why education shouldnt be a part of any market.
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    Re: Big Loss of Teachers Union in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yeah, I mean look at how much worse working conditions have gotten since unions first formed.
    Oh yeah, that's true, those school buildings are treacherous environments.

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    Re: Big Loss of Teachers Union in California

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Public school teachers should not be permitted to unionize in the first place, unless the taxpayers of each district get a direct vote on every union contract.
    If it is possible to have the people vote on the contract, I would have a problem with that otherwise it would be between the union and the school board.

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    Re: Big Loss of Teachers Union in California

    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Public school teachers should not be permitted to unionize in the first place, unless the taxpayers of each district get a direct vote on every union contract.
    why ?
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    Re: Big Loss of Teachers Union in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Safe working conditions have been codified. So if thats their only useful purpose, they're not necessary anymore. The union pendulum has swung way past the point of reason. Any objective observer can see it.
    Or, if they want to be around, how about they are only permitted to negotiate work conditions?

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    Re: Big Loss of Teachers Union in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    why ?
    Because tax payers are the employers and the ones footing the bill.That should be blatantly obvious to anyone with a brain.
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    Big Loss of Teachers Union in California

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    why ?
    Because we pay their salaries, pensions, benefits, etc.. No public sector unions should be legal, unless those paying their salaries, the taxpayers, get a direct vote on their union contracts.

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    Re: Big Loss of Teachers Union in California

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Because tax payers are the employers and the ones footing the bill.That should be blatantly obvious to anyone with a brain.
    arent they a part of labor market ?
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