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Report: Swastikas found in apartment of Las Vegas cop killers[W:251]

apdst said:
There ain't a dime's worth of difference between socialism and National Socialism. You can lie to yourself all you want.
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No, the lie comes from the people who say there isn't a dime worth of difference between the two because that is factually and historically wrong. I have been reading this kind of nonsense from the right for many many years and nobody is able to prove it because it is a lie.

It is a lie perpetuated by the apologetic forces from the right who do not want to be burdened with an evil ideology on their side of the political hemisphere. We on the left already have our evil ideology and it is called communism and our evil hate groups like the rote armee fraction and other terrorist groups.

The right on their side have the nazi ideology, extreme right wing terrorist groups and hate groups like the aryan ......... (pick your poison/name, they all have one right wing ideology to back themselves up).

You can stop this clean up attempt of your own political hemisphere, it isn't going to work. And why would someone, the right is not to blame for their black sheep on their side of the political theater. You are not to blame for the crimes of the nazi's, their evil deeds say nothing about your political movement as conservatives. Both might come from the same political side but are separate and not equal/comparable. Every political influence circle, whether it is the right or the left has a few bad eggs in their basket/dirt on their side of the street, but what is totally wrong is to try and shift your own bad eggs into the other basket/sweep your filth to the other side of the street to make your own side of the street look immaculate when it most certainly isn't.

The right wing filth on the street are the nazi's, right wing hate groups and the street/ground is where the belong, where the good and morally upright right wing people can walk all over these ideologies and stamp them out/stamp them into the ground. We on the left have to do the same with communist dictatorships and other left wing extremists. we have to stamp them out/stamp them into the ground because just like the nazi's do not define the right, the extremists on the left do not define us.

Hitler and his groups were right wing extremists for which the right wing bears absolutely no responsibility, but claiming they are actually left wing goes in the face of all the actual facts. And as a student of the 2nd world war and the interbellum for almost 3 decades, I know where the fascists/nazi's belong and where the communist dictators belong and it is not where you claim it belongs. The nazi's are right wing, deal with it because it is the truth.
 
Ray410 said:
"FAR RIGHT!!"

Dammit! The only question now is whether to blame talk radio or guns!
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No cute little pink faced dead children to exploit. So...talk radio and the Tea Party, obviously.
 
Wiggen said:
History proves you wrong. You do understand that Hitler got in bed with the German industrialists, right? The Krupps, the weapons makers like Porsche and others? There was no nationalization of any of those industries. Not very socialistic, was it?
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You actually do not need to have state ownership to have socialism. One might even argue that state ownership is opposed to socialism, given that it always seems to be more accurately described as state capitalism. However, it is simply a matter of historical fact that Fascism and its variations were derived from left-wing theory.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Do you actually think anyone believes your lame apologetics?
Here's a VENN DIAGRAM. Use it as a learning aid. I made it just for you.

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That's not Swastika. you're clearly confused.

And I HIGHLY DOUBT anyone wo carried on this a attack was affiliated with Nazi Party.

Nazi's wouldn't tag their crime scene - nor white supremacist gang - unless it was a gang hit and those are usually on white people.

Besides there are gnerlly NO Nazi's in the US anyways...

Most single-issue-race groups are small, maybe 100 or so organizations with populations of 100 or less..

I've never met a Nazi, but I have met lone white supremicists - and I really woudln't call them supremacists - they're just people who are upset that our government panders to illegal aliens more than tge Anerucan Citizen ,and that id defenately a concern but some take it to extremes - that doesn't mean they're killers but it does mean they have an abnormoal view on race, illegal immigration and such. They don't nessiarally hate the people who circumvent our immigration laws, however to portray them as a gang is nonsense.

The KKK didnt do this and anyone with a background in gang activitiy would know the KKK and the Nazi's don't get along and share ZERO political ideas beyond being white.

Whomever committed this crime was not white (they could have been) but without qestion have no affilation to the KKK or the Nazi Party,
 
Mr.Nick said:
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That's not Swastika. you're clearly confused.

And I HIGHLY DOUBT anyone wo carried on this a attack was affiliated with Nazi Party.

Nazi's wouldn't tag their crime scene - nor white supremacist gang - unless it was a gang hit and those are usually on white people.

Besides there are gnerlly NO Nazi's in the US anyways...

Most single-issue-race groups are small, maybe 100 or so organizations with populations of 100 or less..

I've never met a Nazi, but I have met lone white supremicists - and I really woudln't call them supremacists - they're just people who are upset that our government panders to illegal aliens more than tge Anerucan Citizen ,and that id defenately a concern but some take it to extremes - that doesn't mean they're killers but it does mean they have an abnormoal view on race, illegal immigration and such. They don't nessiarally hate the people who circumvent our immigration laws, however to portray them as a gang is nonsense.

The KKK didnt do this and anyone with a background in gang activitiy would know the KKK and the Nazi's don't get along and share ZERO political ideas beyond being white.

Whomever committed this crime was not white (they could have been) but without qestion have no affilation to the KKK or the Nazi Party,
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Are you like... a spokesmen for white power hate groups or what? A liaison?
 
Mr.Nick said:
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That's not Swastika. you're clearly confused.
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Did I SAYI was presenting a swastika?
Nope, I said I was presenting a VENN DIAGRAM, and if you understood how Venn diagrams work,
you would see the overlap between the various white supremacist groups depicted IN the Venn diagram.

But you didn't because you are apparently unable to understand them.

I really could care less that you've never met a Nazi, but if you say you never met one and then
you carry on about how much you know about them, doesn't that make you look a little bit ridiculous?

Yeah, it does ...:lamo
 
APACHERAT said:
Could it have been that Jerad and Amanda Miller had been kicked off the Bundy ranch because they acted like leftist radicals ?

You have those on the right who take personal responsibility and police themselves and then you have those on the left who depend on government to police them.

The only connections to Clive Bundy was they were chased away by the right wing.

Then again you can always make **** up and hope the truth isn't revealed.

The Millers were meth heads. How many on the right use meth ?

When tou think of drugs, you think of liberals.

Oh crap :eek: Breaking news !

>"Ammon Bundy, one of Cliven Bundy's sons, said by telephone that the Millers were at his father's ranch for a few days this spring before they were asked to leave by militia members for unspecified "conduct" problems. He called the couple "very radical" and said they "did not align themselves" with the beliefs of other protesters, who thwarted a roundup of Cliven Bundy's cattle by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management, which wants to collect more than $1 million in grazing fees and penalties.

While thousands of people have been to the site over the last couple of months, "Not very many people were asked to leave. I think they may have been the only ones," Ammon Bundy said..."<

Las Vegas cop killers had anti-government views, were kicked off Nevada ranch of Cliven Bundy | Star Tribune
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Are you kidding? the way these nuts act? they gotta be on some kind of hallucinogen acting the way they do, normal people just don't do **** like confront federal officers or employees or bomb BLM and other government offices. As for bundy, he probably smokes peyote and drinks mescal, lord knows HE AIN'T NORMAL.
 
Mr.Nick said:
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That's not Swastika. you're clearly confused.

And I HIGHLY DOUBT anyone wo carried on this a attack was affiliated with Nazi Party.

Nazi's wouldn't tag their crime scene - nor white supremacist gang - unless it was a gang hit and those are usually on white people.

Besides there are gnerlly NO Nazi's in the US anyways...

Most single-issue-race groups are small, maybe 100 or so organizations with populations of 100 or less..

I've never met a Nazi, but I have met lone white supremicists - and I really woudln't call them supremacists - they're just people who are upset that our government panders to illegal aliens more than tge Anerucan Citizen ,and that id defenately a concern but some take it to extremes - that doesn't mean they're killers but it does mean they have an abnormoal view on race, illegal immigration and such. They don't nessiarally hate the people who circumvent our immigration laws, however to portray them as a gang is nonsense.

The KKK didnt do this and anyone with a background in gang activitiy would know the KKK and the Nazi's don't get along and share ZERO political ideas beyond being white.

Whomever committed this crime was not white (they could have been) but without qestion have no affilation to the KKK or the Nazi Party,
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You sure have a lot of clear "understandings" of whom these people were NOT...unfortunately your understanding of whom they actually were is not as keen.
 
Demon of Light said:
You actually do not need to have state ownership to have socialism. One might even argue that state ownership is opposed to socialism, given that it always seems to be more accurately described as state capitalism. However, it is simply a matter of historical fact that Fascism and its variations were derived from left-wing theory.
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Nope.
 
rocket88 said:
But there is video evidence linking the two. You may not like it because it makes your buddy look bad, but so it is.
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Wait...my buddy? Which one of my buddies looks bad? I need to let him/her know. My friends will be discouraged that somehow they are implicated in a shooting in Las Vegas, especially when I don't have any friends who live there.
 
notquiteright said:
Nawww you CONs love playing typical CON games and pretend the loose nuts on the keyboard are not 'true CONs' when the anti police rants start....

You obviously don't read the anti-cop threads.... :peace
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I'm not a CON, which I assume is a childish attempt to rename Conservatives?
 
Travis007 said:
we need to go into every murdering gang members room and see what they find.. Im going to bet a lot of Obama posters..

wanna bet me?

wanna bet who does more killing of people a year and who they support?... bet ya dont find a lot of Bob Dole and Huckabee tee shirts and hats

dont quite fit the lib media narrative or Holders
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you actually sound unhinged.

My point is that you can't simply see what people have in their personal effects to make a conclusion of motive. Crazy people use things to justify their actions. But you want to live in your delusion that is totally up to you. Oh and do people make Bob Dole t-shirts?
 
Wiggen said:
Nobody yet. He just threatened to shoot officials of the Federal Government if they attempted to enforce the law.
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So then there is no correlation between Bundy & this story, since Bundy didn't shoot anyone, and these people did. Thank you for confirming.
 
APACHERAT said:
Meet the Millers.

This guy is all over the political spectrum.

The government are Nazis (Marxist)
The cops are Nazis. (The radical left of the 60's and 70's)
I hate people on food stamps (Tax payers)
I oppose Obama. (Tea Party)
Start the revolution. (Marxist)
Anarchism is the answer. (Occupy Wall Street)
Convicted felon. (____________)
Marijuana user. (Young liberal stoner)
Meth head. (White trash on welfare)
Dresses up as the Joker to make a buck. (Loser)
Dresses up as Tinkerbell. (RED FLAG)
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wow all people who think the government are Nazis are Marxist? Google Richard Mourdock
Cops are Nazis is a radical left position? Google G Gordan Liddy
All revolutions are Marxist? See virtually the entire world.


This could be the dumbest post of the year......that is saying something.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
You conservatives aren't going to like the way this is going but tough titties...

Jerad Miller is seen here posing for a picture with Richard Mack, a former Arizona sheriff and leader of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association.

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Why wouldn't people like it? What's the big deal. I have a picture of me posing with Barack Obama. Is that supposed to signify that he's whispering in my ear?
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
That is so however it hasn't stopped the Faux Noize/Glenn Beck revisionism machine, and it appears that the tide of stupidity is reaching a well known zenith point at which "the big lie" has been repeated so often that it is accepted as truth...at least for a generation anyway.
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So, what's next? Lee Harvey waa a Republican?
 
Wiggen said:
All this would seem to indicate that these folks were right wing nuts, and not left wing nuts! Huh! Go figure! Why would all of the right wing zealots on this forum be so wrong about this? :lamo
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How would that picture indicate that these people were right wingers?
 
opendebate said:
Honest question. I hear a lot of complaining about these people and others who carryout similar acts being labeled as "right" but has a left leaning group (in the US) ever done anything like this?
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What right leaning group shot anyone?
 
opendebate said:
Honest question. I hear a lot of complaining about these people and others who carryout similar acts being labeled as "right" but has a left leaning group (in the US) ever done anything like this?
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There was no "group" here. That is misleading. We're talking about a couple of crazy people, that's it.

The problem with threads like this is people get so caught up in the whole guilt by association thing that they actually brainwash themselves into believing that politics had something to do with it. Neither party embraces violent loonies like these two people. That's partisan hack fodder.
 
tres borrachos said:
I'm not a CON, which I assume is a childish attempt to rename Conservatives?
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It's like "lib" for liberals. Hey, if you guys get to shorten "liberal," it's only fair. Same rules too (first 3 letters).
 
tres borrachos said:
Bundy has nothing to do with this story. Why would he pop into your mind when you saw it?
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Bundy was tangentially connected. They supported Bundy and were at his ranch.

Again, just because you don't like the connection doesn't mean it's not there.
 
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