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Report: Swastikas found in apartment of Las Vegas cop killers[W:251]

I thought of Bundy when the news first broke about this, I wonder why?

And, there was another patriot who shot up a police station earlier last week, same MO, but this guy made his own smoke bombs and drove up the steps of the police department.

Lots of silence from all the folks that supported the Bundy crowd....
 
And, there was another patriot who shot up a police station earlier last week, same MO, but this guy made his own smoke bombs and drove up the steps of the police department.

Lots of silence from all the folks that supported the Bundy crowd....

I didn't hear about that one.

Haven't heard anything about the cattle baron, I wonder when they're going to arrest him?

The nutjobs seem to be cracking lately, don't they? no squirrels needed.
 
I didn't hear about that one.

Haven't heard anything about the cattle baron, I wonder when they're going to arrest him?

The nutjobs seem to be cracking lately, don't they? no squirrels needed.

Birds of a Feather

Both weird and chilling. It seems the couple who killed the police officers in Las Vegas yesterday and the "sovereign citizen" guy who tried to storm a courthouse in Cumming, Georgia on Friday had the same plan: to take over a courthouse and start executing public officials or (possibly in the Georgia case) holding them hostage.

According to the Las Vegas Review Journal, a next door neighbor of the couple was in possession of a package of their documents detailing plans for a courthouse siege.

The next-door neighbor and friend of Jerad and Amanda Miller was holding documents for for the couple that included detailed plans to take over a courthouse and execute public officials.

The file box full of documents, along with three empty rifle cases and an empty box for handcuffs, were confiscated by investigators during a search of Kelley Fielder’s apartment at 110 South Bruce St.

Fielder lived next door to the Millers and called them her “best friends.” She said she didn’t know they were “that crazy.”

It's not totally clear from the article whether Fielder knew what was included in the documents. But it seems a bit unclear to me why Fielder isn't in some legal jeopardy herself.

Equally unclear is why the Millers started their spree by executing police officers in a pizza shop if their plan was to storm and takeover a courthouse. Perhaps that plan was simply abandoned. But they came carrying lots of weapons and seemingly materials for a siege of some sort.

Also notable is that, according the LVRJ, the couple left their apartment at 4:30 AM Sunday morning "telling neighbors they planned to murder cops." Again, no one thought to alert the authorities? Obviously maybe someone thinks they're joking or they're scared or something else. But though the point isn't made explicitly in the LVRJ piece, it seems like a lot of people around the Millers knew not just that they were potentially dangerous or nuts but that they were actively planning or in the midst of perpetrating a major terrorist attack.

As I noted at the top, Dennis Marx seems to have had the same basic plan. He came to the Cumming, Georgia with guns, smoke bombs, explosives, snap-tie handcuffs for handling hostages.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/vegas-shooting-nazis
 
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I didn't hear about that one.

Haven't heard anything about the cattle baron, I wonder when they're going to arrest him?

The nutjobs seem to be cracking lately, don't they? no squirrels needed.

Who did Clive Bundy shoot?
 
I thought of Bundy when the news first broke about this, I wonder why?

Unhealthy obsession with the man, unless you have any proof that nobody else has that Bundy encourages people he doesn't even know who have swastikas painted in their houses to shoot cops and innocent shoppers?
 
Liberals also have a track record of hatred of governemt and the police aka by libs as PIGS.

Cons also have a track record of hatred of the government and the police. You apparently haven't been reading the 'militarizing of LE' threads or have very selective eyesight....

police state

seize our 'guns'

flash bangs are bad

and other rant threads.... :peace
 
Why ask me?

This story is about people who shot innocent people. There is no correlation to Bundy at all. And you mention people cracking, which of course Bundy didn't. Maybe you just miss talking about him? I don't know.

Bundy didn't shoot anyone. These people did.
 
Cons also have a track record of hatred of the government and the police. You apparently haven't been reading the 'militarizing of LE' threads or have very selective eyesight....

police state

seize our 'guns'

flash bangs are bad

and other rant threads.... :peace

Conservatives don't hate the government. They also don't hate the police. They hate big government and nanny states. Not the same thing. Better to let Conservatives articulate what they hate and what they don't hate unless you happen to be one yourself, which you're not.
 
Sure is close, isn't it?

I surely hope they track down those responsible for bombing BLM and forest service offices before they kill someone.

There is a video, not great quality, of Marx shooting up the courthouse in GA. He was met with overwhelming fire.

The whole Bundy ranch affair was just an anger cauldron for these unhinged people. This clown was just itching to go shoot someone, just a matter of time before he acted on it. But damn....the signs..his FB page, his neighbors, who couldn't see that this guy was a domestic terrorist?
 
Unhealthy obsession with the man, unless you have any proof that nobody else has that Bundy encourages people he doesn't even know who have swastikas painted in their houses to shoot cops and innocent shoppers?

Me? where do you want to go with this one? here?

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There is a video, not great quality, of Marx shooting up the courthouse in GA. He was met with overwhelming fire.

The whole Bundy ranch affair was just an anger cauldron for these unhinged people. This clown was just itching to go shoot someone, just a matter of time before he acted on it. But damn....the signs..his FB page, his neighbors, who couldn't see that this guy was a domestic terrorist?

You'd think people live in caves or something that even neighbors think there's nothing wrong with being or acting strange or weird.
 
This story is about people who shot innocent people. There is no correlation to Bundy at all. And you mention people cracking, which of course Bundy didn't. Maybe you just miss talking about him? I don't know.

Bundy didn't shoot anyone. These people did.

I never stated bundy shot anyone, where are you going with these posts?
 
Unhealthy obsession with the man, unless you have any proof that nobody else has that Bundy encourages people he doesn't even know who have swastikas painted in their houses to shoot cops and innocent shoppers?

Where did you get that he had swastikas painted in his house? I never saw that in any news report, in fact, his Facebook postings suggest he is not a Nazi or a white supremacist. Just a very angry anti government kook with lots of guns, who hung out at the Bundy ranch.

Sheriff's Official: Las Vegas Shooters Saw Police As Nazis

Dylan Scott – June 9, 2014, 3:25 PM EDT

Reports have connected the two Las Vegas shooters to neo-Nazi imagery, but a sheriff's official said on Monday that the couple might not be white supremacists. Instead, their ideology appeared to connect police authorities with Nazi oppression.

Clark County assistant sheriff Kevin McMahill told reporters at a press conference that the shooters placed a swastika on one of the two Las Vegas police officers they shot and killed Sunday at a local restaurant. The pair went on to shoot and kill another person before killing themselves.

But McMahill cautioned against presuming that the couple were neo-Nazis or white supremacists.

"One of the things that we believe at this point with the swastika is that we don't necessarily believe that they are white supremacists or associated with the Nazi movement," he said.

"We believe they equate government and law enforcement with fascism and those that support with Nazis," he continued. "They believe that law enforcement is the oppressor and they are associated with the Nazi movement."

Sheriff's Official: Las Vegas Shooters Saw Police As Nazis
 
Unhealthy obsession with the man, unless you have any proof that nobody else has that Bundy encourages people he doesn't even know who have swastikas painted in their houses to shoot cops and innocent shoppers?
Okay, I see now, you've got it a bit twisted. see post # 41 for text about swastikas.
 
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11:20 am Sunday 8 Jun, 2014 the 'revolution' begins.... who had that date in the anti-gubmint idiots start the war???? :confused:

Cliven is a racist idiot but he is no revolutionary for all his bluff and bluster- I doubt 90% of the militia there were ready to throw down- but it only takes 10%.

Cliven is a self centered lying thief who happens to be a bigot, big difference from the 10% who were ready to push women to the front and shoot from concrete barriers as well as the two cop killers.

I see this pattern for the 'revolution'- 90% of the 'revolutionaries' and those demanding 'traitorous' politicians be shot are going to puff, pose and prattle on, but do nothing.

A small group of unstable 'heroes' will from time to time announce 'it' has begun and die an inglorious death in some sad little place.

Another group, perhaps a bit bigger, will die in a blaze of ignorance because of some slight they feel at the hands of 'the government' like the loser who tried to blaze his way into a courthouse and died on the steps all dressed up and no place to go....

One thing seems clear, even when ambushing the 'enemy' most revolutionaries die with way too much ammo left over- you save the LAST round for each other not the 200th from last.... :doh
 
Conservatives don't hate the government. They also don't hate the police. They hate big government and nanny states. Not the same thing. Better to let Conservatives articulate what they hate and what they don't hate unless you happen to be one yourself, which you're not.

Nawww you CONs love playing typical CON games and pretend the loose nuts on the keyboard are not 'true CONs' when the anti police rants start....

You obviously don't read the anti-cop threads.... :peace
 
Swastikas are misunderstood symbols. What most fail to realize is that they are derived from Jainism and was misconstrued by Hitler and the Nazi party. While I doubt that is what the killers had in mind, I thought it needed to be pointed out.
 
11:20 am Sunday 8 Jun, 2014 the 'revolution' begins.... who had that date in the anti-gubmint idiots start the war???? :confused:

Cliven is a racist idiot but he is no revolutionary for all his bluff and bluster- I doubt 90% of the militia there were ready to throw down- but it only takes 10%.

Cliven is a self centered lying thief who happens to be a bigot, big difference from the 10% who were ready to push women to the front and shoot from concrete barriers as well as the two cop killers.

I see this pattern for the 'revolution'- 90% of the 'revolutionaries' and those demanding 'traitorous' politicians be shot are going to puff, pose and prattle on, but do nothing.

A small group of unstable 'heroes' will from time to time announce 'it' has begun and die an inglorious death in some sad little place.

Another group, perhaps a bit bigger, will die in a blaze of ignorance because of some slight they feel at the hands of 'the government' like the loser who tried to blaze his way into a courthouse and died on the steps all dressed up and no place to go....

One thing seems clear, even when ambushing the 'enemy' most revolutionaries die with way too much ammo left over- you save the LAST round for each other not the 200th from last.... :doh
Basically, they're cowards, they'll strike soft targets, and fold up like pizza dough when they're confronted.
 
Definitely far right people who are the anti-federal government type like Cliven Bundy

A man and a woman who shot two police officers and then a civilian in Las Vegas on Sunday may have been white supremacists, according to Las Vegas newspapers.

The Las Vegas Sun quoted neighbors at the couple’s apartment complex saying that the two “had a reputation for spouting racist, anti-government views, bragging about their gun collection and boasting that they’d spent time at Cliven Bundy’s ranch during a recent standoff there between armed militia members and federal government agents.”

The Las Vegas Review-Journal reported that police found Swastika symbols in the apartment.

If the two are involved with neo-Nazi or white supremacists groups, the Vegas slayings would be one of several linked to hate movements.

Among recent killings: A former Ku Klux Klan “grand dragon” killed three at two Jewish facilities in a Kansas City suburb in April; a man killed six before killing himself at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin in 2012; and a man killed three officers in Pittsburgh in 2009.

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Report: Swastikas found in apartment of Las Vegas cop killers

The National Socialists were anti-government?
 
We're also doing a really great job as changing the definition of "right wing" so that we can blame everything bad on liberals.

We don't see you complaining when everything bad gets blamed on Conservatives.
 
Basically, they're cowards, they'll strike soft targets, and fold up like pizza dough when they're confronted.

Sounds like folks that Obama wants to negotiate with.
 
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