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    re: Report: Swastikas found in apartment of Las Vegas cop killers[W:251]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Gnnnh. Do we really have to have this discussion AGAIN?
    What about the Dixie-crats being racists back in the 50s and 60s? I can see why you don't care for the subject matter. That old sumbitch, Byrd went to his grave a damned democrat and a RACIST. He was right there with Orval Faubus, George Wallace and Selma, AL sheriff Bull Connor. And the Republicans had to vote for the bill in 1964, for it to become law.

    Again, I can see why you don't like the subject matter.
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    re: Report: Swastikas found in apartment of Las Vegas cop killers[W:251]

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    What about the Dixie-crats being racists back in the 50s and 60s? I can see why you don't care for the subject matter. That old sumbitch, Byrd went to his grave a damned democrat and a RACIST. He was right there with Orval Faubus, George Wallace and Selma, AL sheriff Bull Connor. And the Republicans had to vote for the bill in 1964, for it to become law.

    Again, I can see why you don't like the subject matter.
    What part of "Southern Democrats were overwhelmingly against it" from my post didn't register? The south was a big fat bloc o' racists back then, Democrat and the few Republicans alike.

    I don't see how posting actual, objective, incontrovertible facts about the CRA voting constitutes "not liking the subject matter."
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    re: Report: Swastikas found in apartment of Las Vegas cop killers[W:251]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    factually incorrect.
    No, it's factually correct and everybody knows it except Libertarians. Let me put it in more simple terms. Libs like government and would like it to be active in society. Cons want less government, and the less they want the more Con they are. Unless you are now telling me that Libertarians actually love government and want more of it.
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    re: Report: Swastikas found in apartment of Las Vegas cop killers[W:251]

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    What about the Dixie-crats being racists back in the 50s and 60s? I can see why you don't care for the subject matter. That old sumbitch, Byrd went to his grave a damned democrat and a RACIST. He was right there with Orval Faubus, George Wallace and Selma, AL sheriff Bull Connor. And the Republicans had to vote for the bill in 1964, for it to become law.

    Again, I can see why you don't like the subject matter.
    I considered replying to this, but Kobie did a pretty good job of giving you a history lesson.
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    re: Report: Swastikas found in apartment of Las Vegas cop killers[W:251]

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    What about the Dixie-crats being racists back in the 50s and 60s? I can see why you don't care for the subject matter. That old sumbitch, Byrd went to his grave a damned democrat and a RACIST. He was right there with Orval Faubus, George Wallace and Selma, AL sheriff Bull Connor. And the Republicans had to vote for the bill in 1964, for it to become law.

    Again, I can see why you don't like the subject matter.
    How interesting that you left out Strom Thurmond.
    And Byrd apologized. Thurmond didn't.

    Q: What has been your biggest mistake and your biggest success?

    A: Well, it's easy to state what has been my biggest mistake. The greatest mistake I ever made was joining the Ku Klux Klan. And I've said that many times. But one cannot erase what he has done. He can only change his ways and his thoughts. That was an albatross around my neck that I will always wear. You will read it in my obituary that I was a member of the Ku Klux Klan.

    Robert Byrd - Interview with CNN's Bernard Shaw in Dec. 1993
    And actually, for the record, Byrd originally renounced his racist past in 1982 in the aftermath of a traffic accident in which his grandson was killed.
    And actually, George Wallace ALSO renounced his racist views as well, and just like Byrd, he did so LONG before his death.
    Byrd even said that he regretted voting AGAINST the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

    You're just another one of the revisionists who pretends that the Dixiecrats of yesterday didn't become the Southern Republicans of today.
    There are a lot of you out there, which means there are a lot of LIARS out there.

    It's okay really, you guys are all dreaming of fighting the Civil War all over again.
    I suspect that you will get the chance to experience defeat once again, too.
    If I didn't respond to your diatribe, it's possible you may have
    engaged in revisionism or broad sweeping generalizations.
    I don't have time for either, and you're probably on my IGNORE list.

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    re: Report: Swastikas found in apartment of Las Vegas cop killers[W:251]

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    How interesting that you left out Strom Thurmond.
    And Byrd apologized. Thurmond didn't.



    And actually, for the record, Byrd originally renounced his racist past in 1982 in the aftermath of a traffic accident in which his grandson was killed.
    And actually, George Wallace ALSO renounced his racist views as well, and just like Byrd, he did so LONG before his death.
    Byrd even said that he regretted voting AGAINST the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

    You're just another one of the revisionists who pretends that the Dixiecrats of yesterday didn't become the Southern Republicans of today.
    There are a lot of you out there, which means there are a lot of LIARS out there.

    It's okay really, you guys are all dreaming of fighting the Civil War all over again.
    I suspect that you will get the chance to experience defeat once again, too.
    Nailed.
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    re: Report: Swastikas found in apartment of Las Vegas cop killers[W:251]

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    There is nothing left wing about fascism, and any attempt to link it to the Left finds one running head on into
    quotes by one of Fascism's most notable authors:



    You will note that I did not dredge up Aaron Russo's falsely attributed "Fascism should be more right called corporatism because it is the merger of corporate and state power" however I will be more than happy to dredge through my collection of Mussolini's writings and supply a very hearty equivalent summation.
    It's just not going to be distilled into a snappy sounding one liner.

    Fascism's record is that of rent-seeking, corporate favors for government friends of big business, powerful and all consuming nationalism bound up in idealistic campaigns that promote ethnic and racial purity, militarism and misogny.

    Corporate groups are social classes in a fascist economy, hence the reason why it is so important to regard corporations not as collections of people but as A PERSON.
    If you wish to call it inverse socialism or inverted socialism, go ahead.

    But it's not leftist. It's not even remotely liberal.
    "Liberal" does not inherently mean left-wing, though modern American liberals would be left-of-center, and left-wing ideology is by no means limited to traditional socialism. You have a very misguided understanding of Fascism, its approach to the economy, and the nature of left-wing ideology. Within the Fascist State there is no free enterprise as a highly-centralized system of economic governance is established that is kept subordinate to the State. It does not treat corporations as persons, but as cogs within the State machine, just like everything else. Private ownership is often allowed, but this is still centrally-managed by the State. All market forces are united within the State, even "private" enterprise. While that is different from traditional socialism, it is still a left-wing economic theory.
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    re: Report: Swastikas found in apartment of Las Vegas cop killers[W:251]

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    How interesting that you left out Strom Thurmond.
    And Byrd apologized. Thurmond didn't.
    27 votes Nay in the Senate...20 democrats 7 Republicans. Byrd was a PoS. So was Thurmond. Had the Republicans not supported it practically enmasse, the bill would NOT have PASSED.



    And actually, for the record, Byrd originally renounced his racist past in 1982 in the aftermath of a traffic accident in which his grandson was killed.
    And actually, George Wallace ALSO renounced his racist views as well, and just like Byrd, he did so LONG before his death.
    Byrd even said that he regretted voting AGAINST the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

    You're just another one of the revisionists who pretends that the Dixiecrats of yesterday didn't become the Southern Republicans of today.
    There are a lot of you out there, which means there are a lot of LIARS out there.

    It's okay really, you guys are all dreaming of fighting the Civil War all over again.
    I suspect that you will get the chance to experience defeat once again, too.
    Byrd should have resigned from Congress and taken his GD KKK sheet with him. You democrats are hypocrites deluxe.
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    re: Report: Swastikas found in apartment of Las Vegas cop killers[W:251]

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    27 votes Nay in the Senate...20 democrats 7 Republicans. Byrd was a PoS. So was Thurmond. Had the Republicans not supported it practically enmasse, the bill would NOT have PASSED.





    Byrd should have resigned from Congress and taken his GD KKK sheet with him. You democrats are hypocrites deluxe.
    Again, repeating for all needing:

    You're just another one of the revisionists who pretends that the Dixiecrats of yesterday didn't become the Southern Republicans of today.
    There are a lot of you out there, which means there are a lot of LIARS out there.
    If I didn't respond to your diatribe, it's possible you may have
    engaged in revisionism or broad sweeping generalizations.
    I don't have time for either, and you're probably on my IGNORE list.

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    re: Report: Swastikas found in apartment of Las Vegas cop killers[W:251]

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    "Liberal" does not inherently mean left-wing, though modern American liberals would be left-of-center, and left-wing ideology is by no means limited to traditional socialism. You have a very misguided understanding of Fascism, its approach to the economy, and the nature of left-wing ideology. Within the Fascist State there is no free enterprise as a highly-centralized system of economic governance is established that is kept subordinate to the State. It does not treat corporations as persons, but as cogs within the State machine, just like everything else. Private ownership is often allowed, but this is still centrally-managed by the State. All market forces are united within the State, even "private" enterprise. While that is different from traditional socialism, it is still a left-wing economic theory.
    So you're still attempting to equate American liberals LIBERALS, DEMOCRATS - errrmmm, ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH THE GOP/TP with Hitler and the Third Reich, yes?
    If not, how is this germaine to the discussion of the ongoing revisionism which is spreading like kudzu in the American dialogue today?
    If I didn't respond to your diatribe, it's possible you may have
    engaged in revisionism or broad sweeping generalizations.
    I don't have time for either, and you're probably on my IGNORE list.

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