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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Are you naive to thinks the guys we released from Gitmo are just to go back tp Afghanistan and be "Happy Campers"
    I suspect that the intelligence community hopes not. These guys are sure to be carefully watched and tracked, probably using means we would never even dream of, in hopes they lead us to more bad guys. Just a guess on my part, but I think it is not a bad one.
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am not really sure where my words confused you. They seem,ed straightforward enough. Here, let me help you out a bit:L did I state than any and every method is the right way to not leave our troops behind? If not, then why would you assume otherwise? Reading Is Fundamental...
    Then why is Barrack Obama going to cut back troops there and leave less that 5,000 of them behind?

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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Many leftists are more worried about terrorists than the American public or their military. It seems to be a matter of mis-education or, to put it another way, you've been taught BS all your life.
    Yeah, shame on us for believing that it's wrong to keep people locked up forever without trial. I guess Stalin was doing the right thing, then - trials, don't matter, just send 'em all over to the Gulag and keep them for as long as he thinks is necessary. "Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" is for weaklings, not for real human beings!
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Um, no, these guys are NOT all the "baddest of the bad". Some were flat-out innocent. We put out a bounty on bad guys in Afghanistan, and some of the people there got the bright idea that all they had to do was to point out people that they didn't like and tell the Americans that "those people are planning to attack you!" or "We heard them laughing about killing your troops!"...

    ...and our side ate it up - we'd pay the bounty, swoop in and get these guys and bring them to Guantanamo...and then we'd find out that maybe, just maybe they were innocent all along. Right now, there's 86 who have been cleared to go back to their home countries...but the House Republicans won't let them go.

    For the 86 prisoners, it's a plight almost Kafkaesque in its cruel absurdity: though the United States believes they should be released from their concrete cells at Guantanamo Bay, they have stayed in prison, often for years, not because of any crime they committed or immediate threat they pose, but because of diplomatic and political hurdles out of their control.

    For the Obama administration, it's a maze with no obvious exits: it doesn't want to keep these prisoners locked up in Gitmo, which is politically and diplomatically costly, not to mention antithetical to Obama's stated desire to close the prison, but Congress has forbidden the prisoners from being transferred to U.S. soil. Though the administration had searched for foreign countries to which the detainees could be released, it appears to have since given up, having closed the office responsible for finding those countries.


    "Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law"...unless, of course, you're stuck in Gitmo...because if you are, it doesn't matter if you're innocent...because America's AFRAID that you might do something bad if we let you go...

    ...never mind that by refusing to let you go home, we've probably succeeded in radicalizing most of your family who are outraged that we took you and won't let you go. By keeping Gitmo open, by not letting the ones go home who should've been gone a long time ago, we're probably creating a heck of a lot more terrorists than we would have otherwise....and so more of our troops die.
    Its amazing how you ignore that during the second world war we held thousands of Germans in custody without trials and when the war was over and our troops safe then we received them and not before.
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Was it only offensive and incomprehensible now? What about the last 5 years? Sometimes I don't think these prima donnas think before they spout off.



    I'm glad he was released. I'm not sure we made the best deal possible, but at least now the matter can be investigated properly.

    I don't want one American killed by one of these bastards for the release of one at best a deserter and at worse a traitor.
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I suspect that the intelligence community hopes not. These guys are sure to be carefully watched and tracked, probably using means we would never even dream of, in hopes they lead us to more bad guys. Just a guess on my part, but I think it is not a bad one.

    If you believe that you live in fantasy land. Wake up.
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Not only is Barrack Obama releasing the worst of the worst from Gitmo he is also withdrawing troops from Afghanistan and in two years says there will be less than 5,000 there. Would anyone care to serve therewhen they know they have little protection and that their own president will not have their backs?

    It will be a bloodbath for Americans troops there. If Obama wants to retreat he should withdraw everyone now not allow any man, or woman, to be left behind.

    I don't believe that "Cut and Running" like cowards is the thing to do. Its like surrendering to the enemy.
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Yeah, shame on us for believing that it's wrong to keep people locked up forever without trial. I guess Stalin was doing the right thing, then - trials, don't matter, just send 'em all over to the Gulag and keep them for as long as he thinks is necessary. "Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" is for weaklings, not for real human beings!
    So you would clog up American courts for generations in order to try international terrorists according to US law? You would also have those serving on the field being used as witnesses, while other terrorists try to sabotage these trials. It is weaklings who will allow themselves and others to be victims of terrorists.

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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I don't believe that "Cut and Running" like cowards is the thing to do. Its like surrendering to the enemy.
    But they don't call it that, nor do they use the more modest "retreat". Instead they are "ending the war in Afghanistan" bbeievung, it seems, that the other side is willing to end the war as well.

    Not along ago the Al Qar=eda flag was raised in Fallujah and today the Al Qaeda flag flies in Mosul, Iraq's second largest city.

    Soon all traces of American involvement will disappear in Afghanistan also with many sacrificing their lives for a President who only knows retreat, and mollifying America's enemies. How many American's would want to jeopardize their lives for a cowardly President like this, who does leave soldiers behind. just as he did in Benghazi?

    Did you read, btw, that a Presidential spokesperson called the terrorists "Gentlemen"? State Dept Spokeswoman Harf Calls Terrorists Released in Bergdahl Trade "Gentlemen"

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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I suspect that the intelligence community hopes not. These guys are sure to be carefully watched and tracked, probably using means we would never even dream of, in hopes they lead us to more bad guys. Just a guess on my part, but I think it is not a bad one.
    Seems, despite all the evidence, you still believe in Obama and always hope a correct decision is just around the corner.

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