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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Not only can you not prove this with any line of reason, your attempt at playing the "Patriot" card would be laughable if it wasn't so sad .
    Are you naive to thinks the guys we released from Gitmo are just to go back tp Afghanistan and be "Happy Campers"
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Are you naive to thinks the guys we released from Gitmo are just to go back tp Afghanistan and be "Happy Campers"
    Have they been convicted of a crime?

    Yes, we know that they are Really Bad People - we get that. But how many years should we keep them locked away without them having been convicted of a crime?

    Same goes for everyone in Gitmo, btw - esp. the 80 or so who have been cleared to be sent back to their home country...but can't go because the Republicans won't allow any funding to be available for them to go.
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Have they been convicted of a crime?

    Yes, we know that they are Really Bad People - we get that. But how many years should we keep them locked away without them having been convicted of a crime?

    Same goes for everyone in Gitmo, btw - esp. the 80 or so who have been cleared to be sent back to their home country...but can't go because the Republicans won't allow any funding to be available for them to go.
    No one should be released from Gitmo until every military man serving there has come home and none are in harms way and the war there is over....These guys are the baddest of the bad. What part of that can you not get through your head????

    During WW2 we kept thousands of German prisoners in custody until the war is over.
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    No one should be released from Gitmo until every military man serving there has come home and none are in harms way and the war there is over....These guys are the baddest of the bad. What part of that can you not get through your head????
    Um, no, these guys are NOT all the "baddest of the bad". Some were flat-out innocent. We put out a bounty on bad guys in Afghanistan, and some of the people there got the bright idea that all they had to do was to point out people that they didn't like and tell the Americans that "those people are planning to attack you!" or "We heard them laughing about killing your troops!"...

    ...and our side ate it up - we'd pay the bounty, swoop in and get these guys and bring them to Guantanamo...and then we'd find out that maybe, just maybe they were innocent all along. Right now, there's 86 who have been cleared to go back to their home countries...but the House Republicans won't let them go.

    For the 86 prisoners, it's a plight almost Kafkaesque in its cruel absurdity: though the United States believes they should be released from their concrete cells at Guantanamo Bay, they have stayed in prison, often for years, not because of any crime they committed or immediate threat they pose, but because of diplomatic and political hurdles out of their control.

    For the Obama administration, it's a maze with no obvious exits: it doesn't want to keep these prisoners locked up in Gitmo, which is politically and diplomatically costly, not to mention antithetical to Obama's stated desire to close the prison, but Congress has forbidden the prisoners from being transferred to U.S. soil. Though the administration had searched for foreign countries to which the detainees could be released, it appears to have since given up, having closed the office responsible for finding those countries.


    "Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law"...unless, of course, you're stuck in Gitmo...because if you are, it doesn't matter if you're innocent...because America's AFRAID that you might do something bad if we let you go...

    ...never mind that by refusing to let you go home, we've probably succeeded in radicalizing most of your family who are outraged that we took you and won't let you go. By keeping Gitmo open, by not letting the ones go home who should've been gone a long time ago, we're probably creating a heck of a lot more terrorists than we would have otherwise....and so more of our troops die.
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    This coming from and unconvicted traitor who abandoned his shipmates in Vietnam.

    By JEREMY HERB | 6/8/14 9:13 AM EDT

    Secretary of State John Kerry is defending President Barack Obama's prisoner swap, saying it would be “offensive and incomprehensible” to consciously leave behind an U.S. soldier

    Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind - POLITICO.com
    Was it only offensive and incomprehensible now? What about the last 5 years? Sometimes I don't think these prima donnas think before they spout off.

    I'm glad he was released. I'm not sure we made the best deal possible, but at least now the matter can be investigated properly.
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Have they been convicted of a crime?

    Yes, we know that they are Really Bad People - we get that. But how many years should we keep them locked away without them having been convicted of a crime?

    Same goes for everyone in Gitmo, btw - esp. the 80 or so who have been cleared to be sent back to their home country...but can't go because the Republicans won't allow any funding to be available for them to go.
    Many leftists are more worried about terrorists than the American public or their military. It seems to be a matter of mis-education or, to put it another way, you've been taught BS all your life.

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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So, do you favor leaving soldiers behind? Personally, I am kinda against it myself.
    Do you favor the President of the United States breaking the law?

    The administration initially said the exchange was urgent because they believed that Bergdahl’s health had deteriorated so much that his death could have been imminent. Officials have since said their greatest fear was that his value to his captors was rapidly diminishing after three years of sporadic and unsuccessful negotiations and as the U.S. combat withdrawal from Afghanistan drew near.

    “When Bergdahl was let go, what we were told was . . . he was in poor health, and they were concerned that if they did not make this exchange that his life would be in danger as a result of bad health,” Chambliss said. “Well, no intelligence supported that.
    Bowe Bergdahl said he was tortured, kept in a cage by Taliban, U.S. officials say - The Washington Post

    Three years of negotiations and the POTUS had to break the law to get him home? Who said he was in poor health? The Taliban?

    Obama does things how and when he wants to because he thinks he's above the law.

    Bergdahl is responsible for what happened to him, not the US military. I'm surprised they looked for him, given the situation.

    Sometime after midnight on June 30, 2009, Pfc. Bowe Bergdahl left behind a note in his tent saying he had become disillusioned with the Army, did not support the American mission in Afghanistan and was leaving to start a new life. He slipped off the remote military outpost in Paktika Province on the border with Pakistan and took with him a soft backpack, water, knives, a notebook and writing materials, but left behind his body armor and weapons — startling, given the hostile environment around his outpost.
    Bowe Bergdahl said he was tortured, kept in a cage by Taliban, U.S. officials say - The Washington Post

    The guy is obviously not a genius. I guess he's just a trusting liberal thinking that if you're nice to terrorists they'll be nice to you.
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Are you naive to thinks the guys we released from Gitmo are just to go back tp Afghanistan and be "Happy Campers"
    Not only is Barrack Obama releasing the worst of the worst from Gitmo he is also withdrawing troops from Afghanistan and in two years says there will be less than 5,000 there. Would anyone care to serve therewhen they know they have little protection and that their own president will not have their backs?

    It will be a bloodbath for Americans troops there. If Obama wants to retreat he should withdraw everyone now not allow any man, or woman, to be left behind.

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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Do you favor the President of the United States breaking the law?



    Bowe Bergdahl said he was tortured, kept in a cage by Taliban, U.S. officials say - The Washington Post

    Three years of negotiations and the POTUS had to break the law to get him home? Who said he was in poor health? The Taliban?

    Obama does things how and when he wants to because he thinks he's above the law.

    Bergdahl is responsible for what happened to him, not the US military. I'm surprised they looked for him, given the situation.



    Bowe Bergdahl said he was tortured, kept in a cage by Taliban, U.S. officials say - The Washington Post

    The guy is obviously not a genius. I guess he's just a trusting liberal thinking that if you're nice to terrorists they'll be nice to you.
    I am not really sure where my words confused you. They seem,ed straightforward enough. Here, let me help you out a bit:L did I state than any and every method is the right way to not leave our troops behind? If not, then why would you assume otherwise? Reading Is Fundamental...
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