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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    It was okay for America to bring home Bergdahl, just not Kerry and Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Why would we bring that up ?
    I actually know the DD-214--fun stuff to go over when your loved one passes away.
    I'm proud of him--he set Mom up good in the assisted living--you only have to be 65-YOA apache.

    They make all your meals, make you eat in their dining room, and see you for meds 3 times a day.
    You have your own apartment, cable--just like normal--activities--we have a new gal admin whose husband is a Vet.

    As I talk to you, I'm thinking of Flag Day on Saturday with Mom at Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery.
    They have the computer kiosk of course and are adding so many Veterans .
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It's time for fun fact time:


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    Read the criteria for being awarded the Purple Heart during the Vietnam War.

    Lacerations, contusions, bumps on the noggin because you lost your balance and self inflicted wounds don't meet the criteria for the Purple Heart. Check it out.

    During the Vietnam War, when an officer received the Bronze Star it was called by the enlisted as the Officers Good Conduct Medal.

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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    It was okay for America to bring home Bergdahl, just not Kerry and Obama.

    I actually know the DD-214--fun stuff to go over when your loved one passes away.
    I'm proud of him--he set Mom up good in the assisted living--you only have to be 65-YOA apache.

    They make all your meals, make you eat in their dining room, and see you for meds 3 times a day.
    You have your own apartment, cable--just like normal--activities--we have a new gal admin whose husband is a Vet.

    As I talk to you, I'm thinking of Flag Day on Saturday with Mom at Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery.
    They have the computer kiosk of course and are adding so many Veterans .
    It's usually after one's husband or father passes away and you finally see his DD-214 or NAVMC 78 -FD for WW ll and Korean war vets who served in the Navy or Marines you see what he never mentioned and kept from family members.

    Do you have your fathers entire SRB ? If not you or your mother can request a copy of it. Since your father was a career airmen it's probably pretty thick.

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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I would like to hear it unless you had to sign a letter of confidentiality.
    This is the NIMBY/Linc prognosis that has won me the Senate crown with brother Pero for the last two cycles.

    Not only is it offensive to leave one of OURS behind, it is offensive to forget about any of ours we knew as friends, family and brothers in arms.

    There's just a special feeling in me due to my exposure to being an Air Force brat through 7th grade,
    the son of a lifer who finished in civil service at JAAP/APSA,
    having one close Vietnam friend and many others through him,
    and marrying an Iowa farm girl whose Dad was a Tank Destroyer in WW2.
    Her Mom was secretary of their military reunion every other year.

    But it was the Vietnam dude who turned me on to the idea of going West.
    He went on a Rocky Mountain trip from Colorado up to Lake Louise and Banff in Alberta after his tour.
    I worked with him the summer of 1971 after graduating high school .
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Read the criteria for being awarded the Purple Heart during the Vietnam War.

    Lacerations, contusions, bumps on the noggin because you lost your balance and self inflicted wounds don't meet the criteria for the Purple Heart. Check it out.
    Still can't come to terms with the fact that the military (that left wing institution they are) saw nothing wrong with Kerry's record nor did it find inconsistencies with the way their predecessors had given those medals? Here, I'll post it again:

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive...jknavydocs.pdf

    Our examination found that existing documentation regarding the Silver Star, Bronze Star and Purple Heart medals indicates the awards approval process was properly followed. In particular, the senior officers who awarded the medals were properly delegated authority to do so. In addition, we found that they correctly followed the procedures in place at the time for approving these awards. Conducting any additional review regarding events that took place over 30 years ago would not be productive. The passage of time would make reconstruction of the facts and circumstances unreliable, and would not allow the information gathered to be considered in the context of the time in which the events took place. Our review also considered the fact that Senator Kerry's post-active duty activities were public and that military and civilian officials were aware of his actions at the time. For these reasons, I have determined that Senator Kerry's awards were properly approved and will take no further action in this matter.
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    This coming from and unconvicted traitor who abandoned his shipmates in Vietnam.

    By JEREMY HERB | 6/8/14 9:13 AM EDT


    Secretary of State John Kerry is defending President Barack Obama's prisoner swap, saying it would be “offensive and incomprehensible” to consciously leave behind an U.S. soldier

    Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind - POLITICO.com
    So, do you favor leaving soldiers behind? Personally, I am kinda against it myself.
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    It's usually after one's husband or father passes away and you finally see his DD-214 or NAVMC 78 -FD for WW ll and Korean war vets who served in the Navy or Marines you see what he never mentioned and kept from family members.
    Mom knew it but blew it.
    That generation was called the "silent" one for more than one reason.
    To her detriment, she missed the computer responses and had P.O.A.

    I had to pay for my POA fees and of course it was Mom who made the unforced error causing delay of game.
    In Jan. 2009, we took him from Hines VA to Quincy and he was in the hallway in a wheelchair due to the Iraqi need for the beds .

    Do you have your fathers entire SRB ?
    If not you or your mother can request a copy of it.
    Since your father was a career airmen it's probably pretty thick.
    I've got it all.
    Btw, we were turned down for more pension due to Vietnam exposure and/or pnemonia to heart.
    It really doesn't matter because what you gain from the VA you pretty much lose to Medicaid.
    Medicaid in IL isn't a big fan of VA paperwork .
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    How anyone could defend "Traitor" Kerry at this time is unbelieveable...He and "Hanoi" Jane Fonda should be tried for treason..
    So upset that Kerry is against leaving soldiers behind, but perfectly willing to use what are at best unproven allegations to defame some one. Classy!
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Still can't come to terms with the fact that the military (that left wing institution they are) saw nothing wrong with Kerry's record nor did it find inconsistencies with the way their predecessors had given those medals? Here, I'll post it again:

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive...jknavydocs.pdf


    Red is what is important.
    He was a Senator, what the **** did you expect ?

    This is more important.

    >"Conducting any additional review regarding events that took place over 30 years ago would not be productive. The passage of time would make reconstruction of the facts and circumstances unreliable, and would not allow the information gathered to be considered in the context of the time in which the events "<


    KERRY CAUGHT IN ONE OF HIS OWN LIES

    >" A lot of controversy surrounds Kerry’s first Purple Heart “wound.”

    In Kerry’s authorized biography, “Tour of Duty,” written by adoring flack and campaign shill Douglas Brinkley, the author writes the following:

    “They [Kerry and his crew in their Navy swift boat] pulled away from the pier at Cat Lo with spirits high, feeling satisfied with the way things were going for them. They had no lust for battle, but they also were not afraid. Kerry wrote in his notebook, ‘A cocky feeling of invincibility accompanied us up the Long Tau shipping channel because we hadn’t been shot at yet, and Americans at war who haven’t been shot at are allowed to be cocky.’”

    Please note the date this journal entry was made - when “Kerry had just turned 25, on Dec. 11, 1968,” Brinkley wrote. That was nine days after Kerry falsely claimed to have been “wounded” during a firefight with the enemy.

    According to military regulations, the only time a Purple Heart can be awarded is when the recipient has been engaged in combat with a hostile force. Inadvertent “wounds” that are self-inflicted, don’t count.

    The Swift Boat Vets revealed Kerry didn’t deserve the first of three Purple Heart medals he got because his “injury” was from a tiny fragment of shrapnel that resulted from him firing an M-79 grenade launcher against the nearby shore from the deck of his boat.

    KERRY’S C.O. DISPUTES VALIDITY OF FIRST “WOUND”

    Grant Hibbard of Gulf Breeze, Fla., a retired Navy officer, told MilitaryCorruption.com he was the commanding officer to whom Kerry reported his “battle wound” on Dec. 3, 1968.

    “I had confirmed that there was no hostile fire that night and that Kerry had simply wounded himself with an M-79 grenade round he fired too close. He wanted a Purple Heart, and I refused.”

    The former Navy commander said Louis Letson, the base physician, saw Kerry and used tweezers to remove a tiny piece of shrapnel – about 1 centimeter in length and 2 millimeters in diameter – from the lieutenant j.g.’s (junior grade) forearm.

    “Letson confirmed that the scratch had been self-inflicted when Kerry clumsily used the M-79.”

    It’s been more than 35 years since the incident, but Hibbard still recalls Kerry’s actions with disgust.

    “It is unacceptable to nominate yourself for a combat award. It compromises the basic military principle that we survive together.. To promote yourself is to denigrate your team . . . Kerry orchestrated his way out of Vietnam [in four months – a third of the required tour of duty] and then testified, under oath, before Congress that we, his comrades, had committed horrible war crimes..

    “This testimony was a lie and slandered honorable men. We, who were actually there, believe he is unfit to command our sons and daughters.”<

    SO-CALLED “WAR HERO” JOHN KERRY A FRAUD

    But it's not about Kerry's long four months in-country, it's about what he said and did after his active duty service.

    Go ahead, defend his actions.

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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So upset that Kerry is against leaving soldiers behind, but perfectly willing to use what are at best unproven allegations to defame some one. Classy!
    Hey Redress, it's only one deserter but trading five dangerous Taliban leaders who are allowed to wander around in Qatar and are completely free after one year is a problem. Especially when the military and intelligence community opposed it.

    Obama having a Rose Garden ceremony celebrating the release of a deserter ???

    This whole thing is strange.

    Even Sen. Fenistein thinks it stinks.

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