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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    It's amazing how you compare this to WWII without putting more thought into the comparison itself. A better comparison would be dealing with a defeated and occupied Germany...because even though there are terror attacks going on even today in Afghanistan, terror attacks were going on in Germany for quite some time after we defeated her. We have occupied Afghanistan, and we occupied Germany...and we allowed many thousands of Germans - many of whom almost certainly believed strongly in the Nazi ideal - to go home. But we're not doing the same for the Afghans because the Republicans are afraid of what they might do.

    But that's the real difference between what we were then and what the Right is today. Then, we did not let fear of what somebody might do rule our actions. Today, our Right does.
    Its funny you have a problems releasing the German prisoners after the war was over, but you have no problem releasing the murderous bastards terrorist while this war is still going on. How can you possbly defend that?
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Its funny you have a problems releasing the German prisoners after the war was over, but you have no problem releasing the murderous bastards terrorist while this war is still going on. How can you possbly defend that?
    They are as you describe yet here is what the White House had to say.
    During the same debate, officials were considering the emerging prisoner-exchange proposal. White House advisers believed that a successful exchange would not only free Bergdahl but would also encourage moderate Taliban members to take an Afghan-led reconciliation process seriously.
    "Moderate Taliban" aka "moderate terrorists'" is the most dangerous and stupid single thing to ever come out of the White House, and I recognize the competition. But this suggest strongly that these people just don't have a clue. I supposed calling them "Gentlemen" was just a slip but this demonstrates it was not. Inside the Obama administration’s debate over freeing Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl - The Washington Post

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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So you would clog up American courts for generations in order to try international terrorists according to US law? You would also have those serving on the field being used as witnesses, while other terrorists try to sabotage these trials. It is weaklings who will allow themselves and others to be victims of terrorists.
    Yeah, it's so terrible to "clog up the courts" with an extra couple hundred cases (as if that's some kind of huge burden on a system that tries many thousands every year) instead of keeping to our American values of "innocent until proven guilty" and "no imprisonment for years on end without trial".
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    They are as you describe yet here is what the White House had to say.

    "Moderate Taliban" aka "moderate terrorists'" is the most dangerous and stupid single thing to ever come out of the White House, and I recognize the competition. But this suggest strongly that these people just don't have a clue. I supposed calling them "Gentlemen" was just a slip but this demonstrates it was not. Inside the Obama administration’s debate over freeing Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl - The Washington Post
    I'd have to agree.

    The idea that there are 'Moderate Terrorists' is a non sequitur. Given the Taliban's Islamic fundamentalism and it's inherent uncompromising nature, the same can be said for the idea of 'Moderate Taliban'.

    All you have to do is ask the Afghans that lived under Taliban rule what they think of this stupid idea that there even are 'Moderate Taliban'. Once again, this administration proves beyond all shadow of doubt that they are not grounded in reality.
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Yeah, it's so terrible to "clog up the courts" with an extra couple hundred cases (as if that's some kind of huge burden on a system that tries many thousands every year) instead of keeping to our American values of "innocent until proven guilty" and "no imprisonment for years on end without trial".
    Are you certain that you are applying the rights of US citizens to the correct people?

    Why should the US tax payer be expected to foot the rather large legal and court bill for a group of international terrorists who want to kill them? Seems that this doesn't really pass the common sense test here.
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    If Romney was President, he would be getting props from GOPs for the Nobel Peace Prize for Bergdahl's release.
    I'm reminded of today's meeting between the Pope, Israel and the Palestinians.
    Seems Israel's been okay trading over 1,000 Palestinians in the past, and the GOP got lots of love from Netanyahu in the 2012 election .
    Strawman, Romney is not President. Unfortunately.

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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Yeah, it's so terrible to "clog up the courts" with an extra couple hundred cases (as if that's some kind of huge burden on a system that tries many thousands every year) instead of keeping to our American values of "innocent until proven guilty" and "no imprisonment for years on end without trial".
    You think there are only a couple of hundred cases out there?

    Whats happened is that these terrorists are just getting killed in the field because of the complaints about Gitmo, which is why so few are now being taken there.. I don't have a problem with that, of course, but you can bet that no terrorists will be captured alive if they are expected to go through the US Justice system either, which is okay with me also.

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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I'd have to agree.

    The idea that there are 'Moderate Terrorists' is a non sequitur. Given the Taliban's Islamic fundamentalism and it's inherent uncompromising nature, the same can be said for the idea of 'Moderate Taliban'.

    All you have to do is ask the Afghans that lived under Taliban rule what they think of this stupid idea that there even are 'Moderate Taliban'. Once again, this administration proves beyond all shadow of doubt that they are not grounded in reality.
    How can there be 'moderate' wife beaters? Or 'moderate' ideas of not allowing girls to attend school? This White House can anything crazy now confident in the fact that a great many people will still believe them. It really is a shame.

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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    How can there be 'moderate' wife beaters? Or 'moderate' ideas of not allowing girls to attend school? This White House can anything crazy now confident in the fact that a great many people will still believe them. It really is a shame.
    Seems to me that the administration is losing their believers and excusers on a daily basis. Heck, even some of the Biased Lame Stream Media is coming around to questioning the president and his administration is a more forceful manner.
    Or do you think that it's all in preparation for the next president which is likely to be a Republican?
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    Re: Kerry: 'Offensive' to leave an American behind

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You think there are only a couple of hundred cases out there?

    Whats happened is that these terrorists are just getting killed in the field because of the complaints about Gitmo, which is why so few are now being taken there.. I don't have a problem with that, of course, but you can bet that no terrorists will be captured alive if they are expected to go through the US Justice system either, which is okay with me also.
    Actually, there's exactly 155. That's all that's left...76 of whom the US has already approved for transfer to home or third countries but remain at Guantanamo.

    So that's a whopping 79 additional court cases, a freaking drop in the bucket of our judicial system...but we can't send them to trial so they can either be convicted or freed. Why? Because of FEAR.
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