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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Is that true? I hadn't heard that.

    And you're 1000% right. If these were (among) his reasons, neither one is an excuse.

    Loons walk among us.
    Yes, he ranted about lack of health insurance on Alex Jones website. Said his teeth were rotting.

    I think its really easy to lash out at society and blame various groups and entities (government, blacks, etc.) when you're down on your luck. Again, not trying to excuse or sympathize with a killer, just talking out loud.

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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

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    Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also [W:74, 162]The level of baiting in this thread needs to decrease drastically in an immediete fashion

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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Your comments here do not reflect that level of knowledge at all.

    If you do not want to be the topic, then stop making such wild observations.
    Perhaps you can tell me what I said that was a wild observation?
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    No, you made up an unrealistic scenario where in you told me that I was doing something that I wouldn't do and that no trained gun owner is trained to do and then tried to bait me into some answer to appease your ignorant understanding of how things works during a shooting. You are ignorant, and your scenario is stupid. Get over it. Neither I nor a fellow CC gun owner would be running around your imaginary Walmart with our guns drawn. That is what stupid people do. End of story.
    Let's revise so that you don't think that it is unrealistic. Guy in a Walmart starts shooting. People scream and start running. Very few people saw it but everyone in there of course heard it. You have your gun along with 20 other people in there. What you do?

    Is this unrealistic?
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Let's revise so that you don't think that it is unrealistic. Guy in a Walmart starts shooting. People scream and start running. Very few people saw it but everyone in there of course heard it. You have your gun along with 20 other people in there. What you do?

    Is this unrealistic?
    As always.
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Let's revise so that you don't think that it is unrealistic. Guy in a Walmart starts shooting. People scream and start running. Very few people saw it but everyone in there of course heard it. You have your gun along with 20 other people in there. What you do?

    Is this unrealistic?
    Shelter in place with gun drawn, and pray I don't have to use it.
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    As always.
    I guess then that mass shootings are just a myth. Nice dodge.
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I guess then that mass shootings are just a myth. Nice dodge.
    No more than faux internet scenario games.
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Not a damn thing if they were smart.

    Those who carry concealed are not cops.

    Their only goal is to protect themselves, not everyone else.

    Protection of society is the job of police.

    Wrong!

    The Police are there to Arrest and Detain for presentation to the courts and justice system. They police rarely are present to perform the function of protection, that is the job of individual citizens.

    We arm our police to allow them to Arrest and Detain the worst elements of our society, which the police have the unfortunate job of having to deal with routinely. But that interaction is almost always AFTER the events of violence and lawlessness toward common civilian citizens have already occurred.

    We do NOT arm our police to protect our citizens, we arm them to protect themselves when cleaning up the mess after the crime.

    Usually, the police are not present when the original crime takes place, so the role of protection falls to the citizens themselves.

    The Police will not arrive until the event is over. Their job is not citizen protection at the instance of a crime, but to apprehend and detain, so that additional crimes are not committed.

    Out on the mean streets, if you're waiting for the police to come "Protect You", you're meat for the grinder, and just another account of "xyz" crime at the time of court prosecution.

    By the time the police arrive, who ever was going to become a victim, has been there for 5-10 minutes.

    If you want to make yourself into a helpless sheople at the tender mercies of the lawless, go ahead and count on "Police Protection".

    I'll Protect Myself and my family, and let the police do their jobs of apprehending and presenting to the court system. That's the job we armed them for,... Not Protecting the People.

    Ask any good cop, and they'll tell you, protect yourself and your family, when off duty, that's exactly what THEY, the cops do! The Cops themselves do NOT rely upon on-duty armed police response to protect themselves and their families, they understand that is simply suicide.

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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    Wrong!

    The Police are there to Arrest and Detain for presentation to the courts and justice system. They police rarely are present to perform the function of protection, that is the job of individual citizens.

    We arm our police to allow them to Arrest and Detain the worst elements of our society, which the police have the unfortunate job of having to deal with routinely. But that interaction is almost always AFTER the events of violence and lawlessness toward common civilian citizens have already occurred.

    We do NOT arm our police to protect our citizens, we arm them to protect themselves when cleaning up the mess after the crime.

    Usually, the police are not present when the original crime takes place, so the role of protection falls to the citizens themselves.

    The Police will not arrive until the event is over. Their job is not citizen protection at the instance of a crime, but to apprehend and detain, so that additional crimes are not committed.

    Out on the mean streets, if you're waiting for the police to come "Protect You", you're meat for the grinder, and just another account of "xyz" crime at the time of court prosecution.

    By the time the police arrive, who ever was going to become a victim, has been there for 5-10 minutes.

    If you want to make yourself into a helpless sheople at the tender mercies of the lawless, go ahead and count on "Police Protection".

    I'll Protect Myself and my family, and let the police do their jobs of apprehending and presenting to the court system. That's the job we armed them for,... Not Protecting the People.

    Ask any good cop, and they'll tell you, protect yourself and your family, when off duty, that's exactly what THEY, the cops do! The Cops themselves do NOT rely upon on-duty armed police response to protect themselves and their families, they understand that is simply suicide.

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