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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    For all we know this happened because they considered the unavailability of Animal Farm in the bookstore to be the last straw.

    If you do even a little research on this guy, he's been a ticking time bomb going back to 2000. I think if it was the shunning by the Bundy people, they would have taken action right then and there. But things will start to trickle in over time, and perhaps someday we'll understand why these 2 morons did what they did. Or maybe not.
    Looks like they left enough videos to study.

    It's easy after the fact to draw conclusions.

    Before the incident, all they did was exercise their right to free speech.
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    I thought you had me on ignore.

    But Moot nailed it. The talk radio crowd and Hannity in particular gave the loonies at Bundy ranch a voice. It doesn't take much to push these nutsacks over the edge. When you have these militia wannabe's out at the ranch aiming their rifles at federal agents, and guys like Hannity cheering them on, what the hell do you expect? The most crazy of the crazies will go and do violence like this. Shame on all the politicians and TV and radio hosts that pandered to the nuts supporting that anti government thief Cliven Bundy.

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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    You have no clue what you are talking about. You are projecting your own lack of training and abundance of ignorance on other people.
    And you are getting personal because you can't logically stay on topic. What would you do? Gun shots go down. Not a can of soup falling or a balloon popping for convenient topic dodging. Gunshots, verified by people screaming and hollering, "he's got a gun". There are 20 "good guys" with guns and all of you heard this going down. What do you do?... other than attack me in this forum that is?
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's BS, he planned to attack a school
    having thought about it and actually planning it are two different things. I'm open to what evidence there is of the detailed planning. I'll admit I'm not fully in the know on it but I don't recall the stories of his and documentation being found on this like they did at columbine.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    having thought about it and actually planning it are two different things. I'm open to what evidence there is of the detailed planning. I'll admit I'm not fully in the know on it but I don't recall the stories of his and documentation being found on this like they did at columbine.
    the reports I got (I was a federal law enforcement officer at the time) indicated a fairly high level of planning-not as much as columbine though which involved bomb making among other things. it was premeditated though



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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    You are simply imagining things at this point, like PowerRob who thinks that shootouts are really just a game of laser tag with pistols.
    Oh looky here. jmotivator talking to someone else and attacking me as a dodge yet again... go figure. lol

    you don't know what I know or think. I've probably held and shot more weapons than you have or perhaps will so... do try to stay on topic. I know it's hard for you... but please try. powerob is NOT the topic.
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the reports I got (I was a federal law enforcement officer at the time) indicated a fairly high level of planning-not as much as columbine though which involved bomb making among other things. it was premeditated though
    My point is, the more they document and have to purchase ingredients, the more likely they will be caught and stopped or that the lapse of time makes them reconsider. Just like with suicide, the more efficient, easy and convenient it is, the more likely that that efficient, easy and convenient suicide will happen.

    Who Knew? The Leading Cause Of Gun Death Is Suicide - Forbes

    What I'm posturing is, the more easy you make the ability to create a tragedy, the more likely it will happen. Relaxed gun purchasing standards combined with the NRA doing all they can to kill off background checks so that ANYONE can have practically any kind of war-intended machine gun stash, including the mentally handicapped... it's a bad recipe. And I know that there is still the argument that they could just get it illegally, well not if the streets weren't being flooded with these things by the manufacturers and gun shows in what seems to be a rather shadow covered dispersing of weapons.

    What's that russian guy they busted years ago they called the merchant of death for gun running in third world nations? Kinda feels like there is a massive underground of that here with no concern to get to the bottom of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    And you are getting personal because you can't logically stay on topic. What would you do? Gun shots go down. Not a can of soup falling or a balloon popping for convenient topic dodging. Gunshots, verified by people screaming and hollering, "he's got a gun". There are 20 "good guys" with guns and all of you heard this going down. What do you do?... other than attack me in this forum that is?
    I already told you what I would do. Your problem is that you tried to tell me what I would do to set up a scenario that I wouldn't be in because I am not ignorant and untrained like you are. It's not insulting, it is just simple fact. I would suggest you take some firearm defense training and basic gun handling classes before you start broadcasting to the educated world that you don't know what you are talking about.
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    My point is, the more they document and have to purchase ingredients, the more likely they will be caught and stopped. Just like with suicide, the more efficient, easy and convenient it is, the more likely it will happen more frequently that efficient, easy and convenient suicide will happen.

    Who Knew? The Leading Cause Of Gun Death Is Suicide - Forbes

    What I'm posturing is, the more easy you make the ability to create a tragedy, the more likely it will happen. Relaxed gun purchasing standards combined with the NRA doing all they can to kill off background checks so that ANYONE can have practically any kind of war-intended machine gun stash, including the mentally handicapped... it's a bad recipe. And I know that there is still the argument that they could just get it illegally, well not if the streets weren't being flooded with these things.
    all this crap about background checks is worthless. criminals get most of their guns from other criminals or family members in straw purchases. the UBGC won't stop any of that.

    and anyone who has even a passing familiarity with the war on drugs realizes how stupid trying to ban market driven activities are. with the cops and military losing thousands upon thousands of high grade weapons each year, even with a complete ban (like we have on cocaine, heroin, crystal meth and LSD) there will be a booming black market



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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    I already told you what I would do. Your problem is that you tried to tell me what I would do to set up a scenario that I wouldn't be in because I am not ignorant and untrained like you are. It's not insulting, it is just simple fact. I would suggest you take some firearm defense training and basic gun handling classes before you start broadcasting to the educated world that you don't know what you are talking about.
    I gave a scenario. You attacked the scenario as a dodge. Tell it to the gunman when it happens. "This isn't how this is supposed to happen. Let's start over."
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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