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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    But they weren't, focus.

    Three mass shootings in one week, all by the same type of anti government radicals. Millers (two dead cops, one dead bystander) , Marx (one officer shot and run over who thankfully survived), and in Canada, Bourque (three dead mounties). Sounds like Reid was right to warn of domestic terrorists.

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    How do you know what they were fans of? You don't. You just want to make this story about Hannity and Bundy, and it's not.

    Canada isn't in the United States, so that's irrelevant too. Why are you going so off topic?

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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Addressing your attempts to take it off topic. Nice try though, do something, then blame others for what you do...
    The shooting in Vegas and the 3 dead people aren't the topic here? You sure about that? You may want to read the subject line of this thread.

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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Gunshots go down in close earshot proximity and no one draws their guns. You are being beyond naive.
    You have no clue what you are talking about. You are projecting your own lack of training and abundance of ignorance on other people.
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    Yeah I just saw the TPM article about the google+ account. I am thinking there is more to the story. The shooter seems way too calm in that video from the Reno station. And if the original video that exploded this story originally was originally this shooter... (MSNBC showed a clip but I can't pull the shooters youtube account) this could get interesting.

    I wonder if being shunned from Bundy made this guy get even more radical.

    I am sure more will come out over time.
    For all we know this happened because they considered the unavailability of Animal Farm in the bookstore to be the last straw.

    If you do even a little research on this guy, he's been a ticking time bomb going back to 2000. I think if it was the shunning by the Bundy people, they would have taken action right then and there. But things will start to trickle in over time, and perhaps someday we'll understand why these 2 morons did what they did. Or maybe not.

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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    I've only heard bits and pieces of the story. Seemed like lack of health insurance was a large part of the guy's frustration, as well as not having the ability to get out of poverty. Not that it's remotely an excuse.

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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    No, it would have gotten violent if it continued to be a standoff. Someone would have opened fire, could have been the feds, could have been the whack-jobs.
    You are simply imagining things at this point, like PowerRob who thinks that shootouts are really just a game of laser tag with pistols.

    The thing is, events like the Bundy standoff attract crazy people like a bug zapper attracts mosquitoes. And with the media whipping up a frenzy in a sad push for ratings, they only emboldened and encouraged these nuts. They say they sent the Millers home...but the problem is...the Millers showed up in the first place. If you don't have these crazy standoffs, you don't have to worry about trying to control the crazy people that showed up...do you?
    They were crazy before and after the stand off. They were only there because they made the same mistake you have made judging the nature of the Bundy supporters. The Bundy supporters weren't whack-jobs. They purged the whack-jobs from their group.

    Hannity is emblematic of the media that pumped up the supporters and gave them a national story. Not responsible journalism is it? Hannity all but fellated Cliven Bundy in his broadcasts....until he finally had to face the fact that Bundy is a racist nut, and that he attracted all kinds of unbalanced people to his ranch. And when you give support and encouragement to unbalanced people, bad things happen.
    You keep wanting to make this about Sean Hannity. It has nothing to do with Sean Hannity. The Bundys have Nothing to do with the Millers. They threw the millers off their ranch and somehow you still want to blame them.

    Do you judge Occupy Wall Street by some of the radical nut jobs and rapists it attracted? Do you judge Code Pink by the anarchists that show up to burn cars at their anti-war rallies?
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Yep. He didn't draw out plans or have time to buy ingredients for and build a bomb.
    that's BS, he planned to attack a school



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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    For all we know this happened because they considered the unavailability of Animal Farm in the bookstore to be the last straw.

    If you do even a little research on this guy, he's been a ticking time bomb going back to 2000. I think if it was the shunning by the Bundy people, they would have taken action right then and there. But things will start to trickle in over time, and perhaps someday we'll understand why these 2 morons did what they did. Or maybe not.
    I could see the shunning by Bundy's group as being a trigger. The shooters admit to selling everything, quit jobs and moving out there. That is some dedication to a belief there.

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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Hannity is emblematic of the media that pumped up the supporters and gave them a national story. Not responsible journalism is it? Hannity all but fellated Cliven Bundy in his broadcasts....until he finally had to face the fact that Bundy is a racist nut, and that he attracted all kinds of unbalanced people to his ranch. And when you give support and encouragement to unbalanced people, bad things happen.


    Very true and Yes, journalists should not hype incidents to furher a socio political agenda. Of course, the also applys to liberal CNN as well as Hannity:


    - "Lets hype the shooting of Trayvon Martin, openly advance the mere possibility that the shooter was a dogmative white rascist (or, when the facts dont fit that, the shooter was a uhmm..... "white hispanic").
    - Ignore the facts that the shooter was not rascist at all, but simply a wanna be cop that got into a situation that he could not control? Done
    - Photos of Trayvon? Publish them, but just the ones taken years earlier, before Martin became enamoured by alpha male gangst'as.
    - Day by day, minute by minute coverage of the trial? Done
    -Publish exaggerated accounts of Zimmerman's hyper vigilance of blacks? Done
    -Publish creatively edited or interpreted tapes as "evidence of the crime?" Done

    Is CNN, therefore, partly responsible for the this murder:
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    You have no clue what you are talking about. You are projecting your own lack of training and abundance of ignorance on other people.
    Nothing like voicing an uneducated opinion with faux authority, eh?
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