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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    Actually the girl didn't have a criminal record. To me this is a lot like the Boston Bombers. The older one was very radicalized and got the younger one to go along.

    Seems the Bundy ranch may have asked then to leave. Problem is the interview that shows the male, he seems really calm and acts like he doesn't want violence. I need to see a something in writing before I buy into the ranch asking them
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    The only thing you can get in writing is the words of the shooter himself. He was angry at the Bundy people for not supporting his radical beliefs.

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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    This thread isn't about Bundy and it isn't about Hannity.
    Keep trying to spin. These murderers were Bundy fans, you can't escape that, no matter how hard you try.
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Keep trying to spin. These murderers were Bundy fans, you can't escape that, no matter how hard you try.
    So? They may have been Marilyn Manson fans too, and fans of American Idol, and possibly fans of Brad Pitt. What's the relevance?

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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    This thread isn't about me
    No, it isn't but it does bring out a certain passive aggressive martyr routine.
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    No, it isn't but it does bring out a certain passive aggressive martyr routine.
    So then why are you posting off topic? This thread is about the shooters in Vegas, and the 3 innnocent people they killed.

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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Gunshots go down in close earshot proximity and no one draws their guns. You are being beyond naive.
    There's a lot of things in this world that sound like a gun shot, and gun shots themselves very. Maybe it was a gun, or maybe a can of soup fell off the top shelf.

    I'm not drawing my gun every time a kid pops a balloon or a car rolls over a soda bottle, just for the extremely rare off-chance that its an active shooter. If I hear something, I'll investigate, and only when I've identified a threat might* the gun come out.

    I say "might" because the situation may be best handled by letting the crime happen and being a good witniss for police. It all depends depends depends.
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The only thing you can get in writing is the words of the shooter himself. He was angry at the Bundy people for not supporting his radical beliefs.
    Yeah I just saw the TPM article about the google+ account. I am thinking there is more to the story. The shooter seems way too calm in that video from the Reno station. And if the original video that exploded this story originally was originally this shooter... (MSNBC showed a clip but I can't pull the shooters youtube account) this could get interesting.

    I wonder if being shunned from Bundy made this guy get even more radical.

    I am sure more will come out over time.

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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So? They may have been Marilyn Manson fans too, and fans of American Idol, and possibly fans of Brad Pitt. What's the relevance?
    But they weren't, focus.

    Three mass shootings in one week, all by the same type of anti government radicals. Millers (two dead cops, one dead bystander) , Marx (one officer shot and run over who thankfully survived), and in Canada, Bourque (three dead mounties). Sounds like Reid was right to warn of domestic terrorists.

    Georgia courthouse shooter had bombs, assault rifle, sheriff says - CNN.com
    'Rambo-style' shooter Justin Bourque appears in court after Moncton, Canada attack | Mail Online
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So then why are you posting off topic? This thread is about the shooters in Vegas, and the 3 innnocent people they killed.
    Addressing your attempts to take it off topic. Nice try though, do something, then blame others for what you do...
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Cough...Waco...cough....Ruby Ridge.

    The federal government has quite the history killing innocent Americans

    No wonder some folks are concerned.
    Well, there is a galaxy-wide gap between being concerned by episodes of police vilence and two nut jobs shooting two innocent officers eating Pizza at CiCi's.

    I wouldn't want to turn this into a "police bad" discussion because the police are not bad. This is displayed by the fact that in every case of a crazed shooting spree like this there are police on the scene putting their life on the line. It so happened that in this right-to-carry state there was also at least one civilian who also laid down his life to protect innocent people.

    It isn't us versus police. That is the fever dream of the Millers.
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