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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Another shooting due to moderate conservatives.
    that's moderately silly



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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    What recent shooter was spontaneous? The ones I remember had all kinds of plans for a long time before acting.
    Sandy Hook comes to mind.
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Sandy Hook comes to mind.
    that was spontaneous

    after he killed his mother?



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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Sandy Hook comes to mind.
    “The evidence clearly shows that the shooter planned his actions, including the taking of his own life...

    Sedenksy said Lanza smashed the hard drive of his computer before going on his killing spree and authorities might never be able to retrieve all the secrets he left there.

    But among the “digital evidence” seized was a “five-second video (dramatization) depicting children being shot” and disturbing “images of the shooter holding a handgun to his head.” There were also “images of hamsters,” “images of Lego creations” and “large amounts of materials on firearms.”
    Inside Adam Lanza's lair: Newtown shooter plotted own death, obsessed with Columbine shooting, report details - NY Daily News

    It could have just as well been "videos of bombs killing people" and "large amounts of materials on explosives".

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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    ok... lets play the scenario game then.

    You are in a walmart. You and 20 other people in the store are packing. You hear shots in the walmart down several aisles away. you and at least the 20 others pull their guns out... 20 people plus the bad guy has guns pulled and aimed. You see a guy with a gun and he sees you with your gun. Naturally, out of fear you both turn towards each other. What do you do?
    That's easy. You aren't trained to go running through Walmart with your gun drawn. You draw when you assess your target. Until any of those 20 people laid eyes on the shooters they would not have their gun drawn, so anyone who I see with their gun drawn would either know I am not the shooter -- because they saw the shooter and my gun was not drawn -- or would point their gun at me which means they are now a target.

    Gun safety and Gun defense classes cover all of this. No trained gun owner would be so stupid as to whip out their gun in a situation like that and go running around the store.
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Inside Adam Lanza's lair: Newtown shooter plotted own death, obsessed with Columbine shooting, report details - NY Daily News

    It could have just as well been "videos of bombs killing people" and "large amounts of materials on explosives".
    Columbine has inspired several gun-related massacres.

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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    ok... lets play the scenario game then.

    You are in a walmart. You and 20 other people in the store are packing. You hear shots in the walmart down several aisles away. you and at least the 20 others pull their guns out... 20 people plus the bad guy has guns pulled and aimed. You see a guy with a gun and he sees you with your gun. Naturally, out of fear you both turn towards each other. What do you do?
    When you make these scenarios, you shouldn't tell me what I do. I would not draw my sidearm at the sound of shots several isles away. Likely I would become the wall to dodge the impending stampede. From that point I would be a good witniss.

    You obviously have no formal training on this matter.
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    I am sure that, after Harry Reid was finished jizzing in his pants, he called up First Solar to say "looks like we're gonna be able to make that solar farm happen after all."
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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    People wanted free **** and feel entitled to take what wanted without any regard for humanity...

    Yet the teachings of the Bible are considered "false" or even "untrue" -- maybe the Bible gives others a moral guidance that prevents these crimes from happening more often..

    Hearing about this stuff is a shame.

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    Re: Ambush leaves 2 Vegas officers and Wal-Mart shopper dead; suspects also dead[W:74

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    That's easy. You aren't trained to go running through Walmart with your gun drawn. You draw when you assess your target. Until any of those 20 people laid eyes on the shooters they would not have their gun drawn, so anyone who I see with their gun drawn would either know I am not the shooter -- because they saw the shooter and my gun was not drawn -- or would point their gun at me which means they are now a target.

    Gun safety and Gun defense classes cover all of this. No trained gun owner would be so stupid as to whip out their gun in a situation like that and go running around the store.
    Gun training is like karate - one trains not just to fight, but to think and act rationally.
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