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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    I hate to drag out this dead horse but it seems many of the people so dedicated to due process during the trial of he who shall not be named (but it stars with a Z) have suddenly abandoned that principle in this case. There is way too much we don't know and frankly, probably never will to judge this young man the way I see some doing.
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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    If Bergdahl is a deserter, that pretty much colors everything else we find out.

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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    I never said, wrote or even implied belief in the Taliban over the deserter. I clearly questioned his account based on the statements of his fellow soldiers and made that 100% clear. You can spin it however you want but in doing so here you lied. Your spin is a lie, a pathetic attack in my character and I won't stand for it. Ignored from this point out.


    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    You titled the thread, "Bergdahl claims he was tortured by his Taliban captors". You then call into question his honesty. That suggests to me that you don't believe he was tortured, and the Taliban denies it tortures its captives. Isn't that a clear "who do you believe?" question? So, who do you believe? Bergdahl or the Taliban?

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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    But I thought according to our more liberal members, that the Taliban isn't a terrorist group. Hmmm.

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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    But I thought according to our more liberal members, that the Taliban isn't a terrorist group. Hmmm.
    The Afghani Taliban are not on the official list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations. Foreign Terrorist Organizations


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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    You titled the thread, "Bergdahl claims he was tortured by his Taliban captors". You then call into question his honesty. That suggests to me that you don't believe he was tortured, and the Taliban denies it tortures its captives. Isn't that a clear "who do you believe?" question? So, who do you believe? Bergdahl or the Taliban?
    The Taliban tortures it's own people (if they don't fall into line)... why wouldn't they torture an "infidel"?
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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    The Afghani Taliban are not on the official list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations. Foreign Terrorist Organizations
    Thank you for reinforcing my point.

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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    The Taliban tortures it's own people (if they don't fall into line)... why wouldn't they torture an "infidel"?
    Quite. I certainly wouldn't believe a word those bastards say, so why create a thread that throws doubt on Bergdahl's reported claims that he was tortured?
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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    I never said, wrote or even implied belief in the Taliban over the deserter. I clearly questioned his account based on the statements of his fellow soldiers and made that 100% clear.
    How would his fellow soldiers have any idea what happened to him during his period of captivity? What they might know about the circumstances of his being taken captive have absolutely no bearing on whether or not he was tortured. I don't know whether you're spinning, but you're certainly conflating two completely different issues, and seem to hate the idea that you've been caught out doing so.

    You can spin it however you want but in doing so here you lied. Your spin is a lie, a pathetic attack in my character and I won't stand for it. Ignored from this point out.
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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    The difference here - When one of our POWs is tortured in captivity we are outraged. When a deserter is captured by the enemy and tortured, that contains an element of delicious irony and it's a bit harder to be outraged.

    Btw, what would have happened if we had caught the deserter before the enemy did? Leavenworth, breaking large rocks into smaller ones. As close to torture as we can legally come.

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