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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    The majority does not rule for hearsay.
    You don't know the meaning of the word hearsay.
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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Just curious. This is the first report I've seen that this soldier we traded for in Afghanistan has said anything? I'll be curious to know who is directing his comments? Are these his words or has the obummer regime given him the best PR firm a government can buy?

    These comments are almost to politically correct. His email, his statements as reported by others and the concerns many had about his collaboration, treason and desertion are they "swift boating" him? Is that orchestrated by Fox? I see at least 6 young men coming forward and blasting this man....so do you believe one or six?
    Well, you seem to be taking the Taliban's word over Bergdahl's, so I guess you'll believe anyone.
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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Its been verified that these men are telling the truth? Links?
    You expect there to be links that show evidence what occurred on a remote battlefield in Afghanistan is true or not? Who has more reason to make up a story here? The soldiers don't get anything out of making up a story. And don't you think it is a bit odd that all their stories seem to coincide with each other. I have not heard stories from anyone in his unit that contradict what has been said. The administration has quite a few reasons to try and brush this under the rug by marring it in misinformation. They have an election to win this next year. The soldiers that spoke out are lucky to even get proper medical care after their stint in a battle zone in Afghanistan. They have no aspirations that could be potentially damaged by this.
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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Essentially leaving him to the Taliban would have been death for him and your "court of public opinion" would have sentenced him to death. You have said that we should have just left him to the Taliban. Can't get more un-American than leaving a U.S. soldier to terrorists.

    You get him back and THEN investigate and/or put him on trial. Anything that leaves a soldier to terrorists is HIGHLY un-American.
    He had been with the Taliban for 5 years and was healthy. Would I have left him with the Taliban, that depends. Would I leave him with the Taliban if what it takes to free him kills more Americans? Yes. Would I leave him with the Taliban if I knew where he was and had a team of soldiers that could go in and get him? No. Of course I would go in and get him out of there regardless. If anything, the bring him home and put him on trial for what seems to be, quite a bit of evidence pointing to him leaving his post.
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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    You don't know the meaning of the word hearsay.
    Sure I do, I looked the word up on pictionary.

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Every unit has disciplinary problems, particularly an army unit in a combat zone. I think what is happening here is that the administration is trying to muddle the reputation of the unit to try and discredit first hand accounts of Berghdhals desertion. Funny how they try and discredit Berghdhals unit, but somehow separate Berghdhal from his unit as if he was the only good soldier in it. Even if his unit lacked discipline, he was part of that unit as well.
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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    True, and I think that is precisely what I think was happening....A false narrative is being laid out, and the disgusting attack of the character of honorable soldiers, while they lift up a deserter at best, is disgusting.
    I think he should be court martialed and in the very least given a dishonorable discharge.

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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Where did I quote the taliban? I referred to the 6 now 15 soldiers that came forward who served with this deserter. Do not claim I took the word of the taliban. You need to correct that post or apologize that is BS.


    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Well, you seem to be taking the Taliban's word over Bergdahl's, so I guess you'll believe anyone.

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    Re: Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Where did I quote the taliban? I referred to the 6 now 15 soldiers that came forward who served with this deserter. Do not claim I took the word of the taliban. You need to correct that post or apologize that is BS.
    You titled the thread, "Bergdahl claims he was tortured by his Taliban captors". You then call into question his honesty. That suggests to me that you don't believe he was tortured, and the Taliban denies it tortures its captives. Isn't that a clear "who do you believe?" question? So, who do you believe? Bergdahl or the Taliban?
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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    He had been with the Taliban for 5 years and was healthy. Would I have left him with the Taliban, that depends. Would I leave him with the Taliban if what it takes to free him kills more Americans? Yes. Would I leave him with the Taliban if I knew where he was and had a team of soldiers that could go in and get him? No. Of course I would go in and get him out of there regardless. If anything, the bring him home and put him on trial for what seems to be, quite a bit of evidence pointing to him leaving his post.
    No doctor has declared him "healthy" being with the Taliban. NONE.

    Your Un-American attitude shows greatly that you would leave a soldier to trial by media instead of at least giving him the opportunity to speak in his own defense. Pathetic. Go to Iran.

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