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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Character assissination is illegal in a courts martial.

    When did I ever say "convict on hearsay"? Hell, YOU, are redy to deport Justin Beiber for excercisung his 1st Amendment rights.
    Fail.
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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Bergdahl says he was tortured by Taliban captors

    Just curious. This is the first report I've seen that this soldier we traded for in Afghanistan has said anything? I'll be curious to know who is directing his comments? Are these his words or has the obummer regime given him the best PR firm a government can buy?

    These comments are almost to politically correct. His email, his statements as reported by others and the concerns many had about his collaboration, treason and desertion are they "swift boating" him? Is that orchestrated by Fox? I see at least 6 young men coming forward and blasting this man....so do you believe one or six?
    I believe that there is gonna be a trial.

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I have my opinion, but I never said their shouldn't be a trial.

    Even through partisan glasses, the evidence is overwhelming.
    You (IIRC) and others have said that he should have just been left with Taliban. That is essentially passing judgment and sentencing a soldier to death without trial. If YOU personally did not say that, then I apologize, but others in this thread have.

    That is completely wrong. The ONE thing I was fully behind was that fox news reporter that said you get your soldier back THEN investigate. You don't leave soldiers to the Taliban. NEVER.

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There are many people throughout history who we know to be guilty of crimes despite them never having gone through the legal system. There is the judicial system and the court of public opinion and in that court Bergdahl is an obvious deserter. Whether he is guilty of other crimes has yet to be demonstrated.
    Essentially leaving him to the Taliban would have been death for him and your "court of public opinion" would have sentenced him to death. You have said that we should have just left him to the Taliban. Can't get more un-American than leaving a U.S. soldier to terrorists.

    You get him back and THEN investigate and/or put him on trial. Anything that leaves a soldier to terrorists is HIGHLY un-American.

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Essentially leaving him to the Taliban would have been death for him and your "court of public opinion" would have sentenced him to death. You have said that we should have just left him to the Taliban. Can't get more un-American than leaving a U.S. soldier to terrorists.

    You get him back and THEN investigate and/or put him on trial. Anything that leaves a soldier to terrorists is HIGHLY un-American.
    Please use quotes when you claim I've said something. What I did say was that he left his fellow Americans behind, not the other way around.

    I think this was a bad deal for those Americans who are going to be killed because of this release of terrorists. It could have been handled differently. If it was possible to get bin Laden in a foreign country under far more difficult circumstances then, in five years, they should have been able to capture Bergdahl and kill all of those in his immediate area. The military has pulled off far more dangerous missions.

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    A lot of times when cowards are captured the enemy treats them more harshly because they are cowards. The Japanese regarded all Americans that surrendered as cowards. not soldiers.

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    A lot of times when cowards are captured the enemy treats them more harshly because they are cowards. The Japanese regarded all Americans that surrendered as cowards. not soldiers.
    Could that be because the Japanese culture held Kami-Kaze pilots in high regard?

    Just as we celebrate our soldiers who "died for the cause" several times a year until eternity?

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    Not to be too partisan one way or another but did you realize that GWB released 500 prisoners?
    Releasing prisoners, in and of itself, is not the problem. Releasing these prisoners while the war is still ongoing is.
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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Is it really just that simple? A numbers game?
    That's why they kept him in Landstul Germany as long as they did. Easy to coach him with less US media around.

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    Re: Who Do You Believe? A soldier or the soldiers?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    That's why they kept him in Landstul Germany as long as they did. Easy to coach him with less US media around.
    True, and I think that is precisely what I think was happening....A false narrative is being laid out, and the disgusting attack of the character of honorable soldiers, while they lift up a deserter at best, is disgusting.
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